[Foundation-l] Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender

Fri Jul 9 07:01:52 UTC 2004

This problem with the adress wikilegal-l being
inserted in some messages has been going on for a
while now; 

It is a problem with gname, and I have no idea how to
fix it. 

I just know that it makes all those prefixed messages
refused by the mailing list system.

I suggested that those still posting to wikilegal-l
remove the adress from their mails, and only post to
foundation-l, so that it does not break the gname
system. But ... :-(

Would anyone caring for mailing list has an idea how
to fix this problem ?

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my answer to Michael is at the end of this message :-)

ant

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> To: wikilegal-l at wikimedia.org
> From: Anthere <anthere9 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Re: NEH grant
> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 08:13:05 +0200
> CC: foundation-l at wikimedia.org
> 
> 
> 
> Michael Snow wrote:
> > Anthere wrote:
> > 
> >> Christopher Mahan wrote:
> >>
> >>> I too wish to express my misgivings at getting
> the grant. There's
> >>> always strings attached, and targets have to be
> met, and so on. Who's
> >>> gonna run it? Who's gonna keep track of the
> money, the milestones,
> >>> etc...
> >>>
> >>> I would rather mav publish a monthly budget and
> post that to the
> >>> front page, like this:
> >>>
> >>> This month, we need $4000 to meet expenses. So
> far, users have
> >>> contributed $2800. Thank you!
> >>>
> >>> If budget is met, then you write:
> >>> This month's budget has been met. Thank you!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It needs to be updated daily.
> >>
> >>
> >> I strongly disagree with this.
> >> A budget is not something you balance week per
> week or even month per 
> >> month. We must plan it. In advance. A budget is
> something you have to 
> >> organise, to take into account structural needs,
> contingencies, and 
> >> see how to best use the remaining. 
> > 
> > 
> > With respect to budgets, and also with respect to
> the financial 
> > management involved in running a grant, Anthere is
> quite right. The 
> > people who have to do the actual work cannot get
> the job done if they 
> > have to spend half or more of their time keeping
> everyone constantly 
> > updated on what they're doing.
> > 
> > However, it would be nice to see more frequent
> updates just about 
> > fundraising progress, which is what this
> suggestion focuses on.
> 
> I agree.
> This is planned to be on the new fundation website,
> as part of the 
> feedback the organisation can provide donors.
> 
> For more information about the new website content,
> see 
> http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_website
> 
> Please add to the page :-)
> 
> 
> 

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