[Engineering] [Wikitech-l] Long running tasks/scripts now included on [[wikitech:Deployments]]

Guillaume Lederrey glederrey at wikimedia.org
Thu Sep 22 14:59:38 UTC 2016


I assumed the same, but better be explicit about those assumption :)

On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Alex Monk <amonk at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> I had been assuming that puppetised crons were not really relevant...
>
> On 22 September 2016 at 15:19, Guillaume Lederrey <glederrey at wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> Increasing visibility sounds like a great idea! How far do we want to
>> go in that direction? In particular, I'm thinking of a few of the
>> crons we have for Cirrus. For example, we do have daily crons on
>> terbium that re-generate the suggester indices. Those can run for >
>> 1h.
>>
>> My understanding is that those kind of crons should not be considered
>> scripts, but standard working parts of the system. Adding them will
>> probably generate more noise than useful information. Is this a
>> reasonable understanding?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>    Guillaume
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Greg Grossmeier <greg at wikimedia.org>
>> wrote:
>> > In an effort to reduce surprises and potential mishaps it is now
>> > required to include any long running tasks in the deployment
>> > calendar[0].
>> >
>> > "Long running tasks" include any script that is run on production 'work
>> > machines' such as terbium that last for longer than ~1 hour. Think:
>> > migration and maintenance scripts.
>> >
>> > This was discussed and proposed in T144661[1].
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Greg
>> >
>> > [0] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments
>> >     Relevant diff:
>> >     https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=850923&oldid=850244
>> > [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144661
>> >
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