xTools is a suite of tools, not just an edit counter. "Detailed edit counter" is not fitting, instead just think of it as the "xTools edit counter". There are LOTS of edit counters, not just Supercount and the one included in XTools (look at the labs directory). Naming them "simple" and "detailed" rids the authorship and originality aspect of the service.

For xTools, you can open any tab in a new window by right-clicking and selecting open in a new tab. Supercount's tabs are part of a single-page app so this is not possible there. Internally, this makes sense, as you would not want to perform the same query on every page, so put it all on one page (by contrast each tab on xTools is a different tool).

The speed of the counters is at the mercy of replication database performance and the size of the query. If you query for a user with less than 10,000 edits it will run reasonably fast. If you run the same query on a user with 50,000+ edits it's going to take considerably longer, and that's true for any edit counter. Some counters might be faster than others, but I'd guess that's purely how they construct the queries, which we can work to improve.

Max, I have a counter of my own that I've been working on for which I borrowed many of the queries from xTools. I can get those to you shortly.

On 10 August 2015 at 09:26, Maximilian Doerr <maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:

Supercount:

1.       It was and only has been under my maintenance.

2.       If you want an edit counter that displays on a single page, use xTools.

3.       Why?  What purpose would that serve.  That would leave you with the form on one tab and the results in another?

4.       I have never seen the tool take more than 30 seconds to load.  And quite frankly it never crashed during this fiasco either.

5.       The name was given as I had intentions to make the edit counter more capable.  But now that xTools exists I might as well rename it.

 

xTools:

1.       The xTools team, which seems to be primarily me once again at the moment.  xTools is a bundle of tools, initially written by X!.

2.       What pop-out cake parts?  All information is on one page already.

3.       Again. Why?

4.       This tool is usually faster than supercount, when the tool isn’t overloaded.

5.       In this case, we are preserving the name X!’s Edit Counter

 

 

Cyberpower678

English Wikipedia Account Creation Team

Mailing List Moderator

 

 

From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 4:34 AM
To: Discussion list for xTools
Subject: Re: [xTools] xTools rewrite underway

 

The community  has various uses for X-tools and user editing  analysis. Also users are confused about  what  are X-tools and what  are other tools, especially  when there are perhaps several  tools by  different  developers that  do basically  the same things

 

I  believe that  the developers may  possibly not  be fully  aware of these uses and therefore may  not  take them all  into  consideration.

 

WE  have some confusion because there are two edit counters. First  and foremost there is the question  of user edit counters. Some users consider these to  be gimmiks or gadgets (toys)  but  there are situations were these are required for very  serious  research and they  need to  display  in  a manner that  is appropriate for serious users.

 

Supercount

Who  is now responsible for the maintenance of this tool?

Can it  be reverted to  its former presentation without  the pop-out  cake parts and having  all  the information  on  one page?

Can it  be designed to  open in  a new tab?

Can it  be designed to  load in  a few seconds instead of a few minutes?

Can it  be given a name that  tell  us waht  it  does> e.g. Simple edit counter

 

Analysis X-tools

Who  is now responsible for the maintenance of this tool? Or is X-tools a set  of different  tools?

Can it  be reverted to  its former presentation without  the pop-out  cake parts and having  all  the information  on  one page?

Cam it  be designed to  open in  a new tab?

Can it  be designed to  load in  a few seconds instead of a few minutes?

Can it  be given a name that  tell  us waht  it  does e.g. Detailed  edit counter

 

Kudpung

 

 

On 10 Aug 2015, at 10:37, Maximilian Doerr <maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Hi guys.  I’ve been working on fashioning up the new file and classes for a more organized and less dependent code structure.

 

T13, do you think you can dig through the edit counter and articleinfo codes and fetch me all the queries each use to gather the needed information on both the database and API?

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