As you know :). Not trying to make too much of a splash given the beta
status but hope more folks are going to get involved with cleanup
issues.
Do note the point below about Incubator: To start a new language, just
visit one that doesn't exist and follow the instructions provided,
e.g.:
https://pl.wikivoyage.org
Other stuff that should already work:
* HTTPS without warnings
* Collection extension for PDFs/printed boooks
* https://www.wikivoyage.org/ portal
Biggest remaining issues I'm aware of:
* Mobile site (needs to be setup by ops)
* Search index (needs to be regenerated, pending)
* Potential additional issues with some user accounts (let us know)
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
So, if you've not been following along on wikivoyage-l (
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l ), you
should know that Wikivoyage is now hosted on WMF servers. :) We're
currently in "beta", as there's still lots of smaller and larger
issues to work through, including transferring images to Commons or
local wikis as appropriate. But now's a great time to get involved if
you want to help fix things. These are the languages that are live
now:
https://en.wikivoyage.org/https://de.wikivoyage.org/https://ru.wikivoyage.org/https://nl.wikivoyage.org/https://it.wikivoyage.org/https://sv.wikivoyage.org/
But, any other language code should gracefully redict you to Wikimedia
Incubator, where you can easily get started to prove viability of a
new language. :-)
Like I said: Lots of things are still wonky. If you notice something
you can't fix, please report it on Bugzilla and add it as a blocker
for the tracking bug here:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41184
While we're not done yet, I'd like to take this chance to thank
everyone who's been part of the process so far:
* the existing communities for being awesome in supporting this migration :-)
* Wikivoyage e.V. and especially Hans (for being our main tech contact
managing the DB transfers), Stefan (for handling all the
organizational fun), and Roland (for technical support and review).
* the WMF technical launch team: Chris Steipp, Daniel Zahn, Matthias
Mullie, Sam Reed + everyone who chipped in with help and support.
* the WMF legal and community advocacy team: Geoff Brigham, Kelly Kay,
Philippe Beaudette, and everyone else who helped.
* anyone else I've forgotten to name :-)
All the best,
Erik
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Hi Everyone,
I'm sorry to say that the sites are not yet launched, although we are
getting closer. We have encountered a few unexpected issues that have
delayed us, and the overall transfer process is taking much longer
than anticipated. We're importing the data as quickly as we can
without impacting other WMF sites, and are nearing the end of the
transfer process. After that, we'll be doing some final QA to make
sure that everything is working, and then we'll point dns to the new
servers.
In the meantime, the WMF legal team has also asked that we launch the
sites with new wording on the Disclaimer pages, using language as
close to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/Disclaimer as
possible. It would be great if we could get some help with the
translation, and make sure this isn't going to be an issue for any of
the communities.
Thanks for your continued patience, and I have to be announcing the
sites' availability soon!
Chris
Hello,
I was admin on the English and French WikiTravel sites.
Is it possible to become admin admin on the English and French WikiVoyage sites?
I am admin on Wikimedia Commons.
I am Yann everywhere.
Best regards,
Yann
Lt Powers has a valid concern, that several of us share, and it has nothing to do with liking the logo or not.
Cacahuate
On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Snowolf <ml(a)snowolf.eu> wrote:
> So you feel a logo you don't like shouldn't become the logo and so raise it here? Please...
>
> I'm sure Philippe is watching the discussion and has already commented that for example the whole idea about the colors not being used is not a concern or a problem on WMF's part.
>
> Snowolf
>
> On 07/11/2012 17:53, Powers wrote:
>> The Wikivoyage logo poll is generating strong support for an option that looks extremely similar to the Meta-Wiki logo. Several of us feel that this will create brand confusion and numerous problems down the road, but it still has strong support from folks who think that similarity – which in this case goes far beyond just the colors – is an asset. Is there any way we can get WMF’s brand identity team (or whomever) to comment on whether such a logo would be acceptable, ideally before we get into stage 2 of the poll?
>>
>>
>> Powers &8^]
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Just a reminder to everyone to please remember to *not* publicize our
launch yet!
Until the image transfer is more complete, our admin resources will be
stretched very thin, if we get a ream of new editors working on the site.
Thank you,
-Peter
The Wikivoyage logo poll is generating strong support for an option that
looks extremely similar to the Meta-Wiki logo. Several of us feel that this
will create brand confusion and numerous problems down the road, but it
still has strong support from folks who think that similarity - which in
this case goes far beyond just the colors - is an asset. Is there any way
we can get WMF's brand identity team (or whomever) to comment on whether
such a logo would be acceptable, ideally before we get into stage 2 of the
poll?
Powers &8^]
As we gear up for the launch "in beta", we should prepare a nice
sitenotice that explains what's going on.
I've put up a quick draft here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/Beta_notice
Would appreciate edits and translations. The "oldwikivoyagelink" will
be replaced via JavaScript as that's more reliable than using
magicwords in a sitenotice.
Cheers,
Erik
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Should work be done on wts.wikivoyage or wts.wikivoyage-old? Does it
matter? Will wts.wikivoyage be shut down soon and redirected to
wts.wikivoyage-old?
-Peter
Hi folks,
based on the poll at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Guide/Launch , Stefan's
go-ahead, and the potential significant delays that we'd incur if we
deferred [*], I'm going to be bold and I'm authorizing the launch this
week as originally planned.
Here's what this will mean:
* Hans is preparing database dumps tonight. Any wiki will need to go
into read-only mode the moment dumps are being kicked off, and will
need to remain in read-only mode on the old server. WTS, SHARED,
GENERAL and ASSOC are exempt from this as they'll not be migrated
as-such. They can remain editable for purposes such as tagging content
statuses.
* We're still waiting for the registrar of wikivoyage.org to finalize
the transfer. We've aimed to accelerate this process as much as
possible, but to some extent it's ouside of our control. We hope that
the transfer will be completed tomorrow. Worst case scenario is that
the wikis under wikivoyage.org will be read-only for a few more days.
(There are technical workarounds to access the new site if this
happens, which we will post if needed.)
* Tomorrow and Wednesday we'll spend a lot of time debugging the
imports and the new site functions. A lot of things will incrementally
be fixed so don't be surprised if things are a bit bumpy at first.
* The site will be configured to use Commons as its media repository,
so any files referenced from there will work. Other files will need to
be uploaded either to Commons or to the local wiki under the non-free
content policy.
* We'll run a sitenotice that explains that the site is in beta, how
to access pages on the old server, and how to help report bugs and fix
issues.
* wikivoyage-old.org WILL WORK to access the old sites for as long as needed.
It's going to be a bit of a bumpy ride, so please bear with us.
Thanks much for your understanding and support in getting the word out.
All best,
Erik
[*] We'd have to either schedule a window into Hans' upcoming long
travel through the US and Mexico, or ensure that we've got all the
procedures reviewed and tested by Wikivoyage's other administrators.
It would be possible, but I think most people really would like to see
this project move forward without entering a long window of
uncertainty.
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VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
Just a quick update to let you know that the migration is progressing,
although some pieces are taking a little longer than anticipated
(English is _still_ exporting!). After working out a few process
issues on our side, things seem to be progressing well, so at this
point it looks like we are on track to finish the migration tomorrow
before Hans leaves.
Thanks for all your hard work everyone!
Chris