So I gather the mailing to the signed-up users hasn't gone out yet? If all
else fails, I can do it from my personal account, but it would really be
preferable to do it from a wikivoyage.org or wikimedia.org address. Would
it be hard to eg. set up a one-off mailing list, or is there another nice
way to handle this?
Cheers,
-jani
So I spotted my first Wikivoyage link in the wild on Google... but it
looks like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voy:Yonaguni_phrasebook
Redirects through to Wikivoyage just fine, but what's going on there?
Cheers,
-jani
Hey All
Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. Who is leading
the mobile effort?
I would propose that the mobile site should show the article at the persons
IP address. Thoughts.
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James Heilman
MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
A diaper is a kind of underwear that allows one to defecate or urinate in a
discreet manner. When diapers become soiled, they require changing; this
process is often performed by a second person such as a parent or
caregiver. Failure to change a diaper on a regular enough basis can result
in diaper rash.http://www.easyfit.in
This will be of interest to fellow voyagers.
*
Experimental features pushed to mobile*: Following the release of a new
mobile Wikimedia experience in 2012, the Wikimedia Foundation has further
extended their beta to include new features. Specifically, logged-in mobile
users can now upload pictures to the Wikimedia Commons directly from their
browser, while Wikimedia editors will be interested in the new watchlist
and section editing tools. These features, while functional, are described
as experimental at this time.
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From: "Yaroslav M. Blanter" <putevod(a)mccme.ru>
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:41:41 +0000, Thehelpfulone wrote:
> Speaking from my experience as a list administrator for a number
> of?the Wikimedia mailing lists:
>
> Letting people subscribe to and know of the existence of?the mailing
> list is a good idea at the moment. The user that sent this email is
> subscribed to the mailing list so we need the list admin (Erik at this
> point but we can have more) to unsubscribe them.
>
> The list is already set so that non-members cannot send a message to
> it, but as you can see if they do subscribe to the list then they can
> post freely. We dont usually require list admin approval for
> subscription requests as this is a public list, but here are the
> options:
>
> a) Require list admin approval for subscription - doesnt make sense to
> me as its not a private list, so you would likely approve that spammer
> anyways.
>
> b) Set posts for new subscribers to require moderation (approved by a
> list admin?before they are sent to the list) - this could stop any
> potential influx of spam and legitimate subscribers could be
> unmoderated once they have posted.?
>
> c) Remove the advertising of the mailing list from the site notice.
>
> d) Do?nothing yet.
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> I think d) is the best at the moment, as?this email?is likely to just
> be a one off so we can unsubscribe and ban this spammer. If?the spam
> increases, then we could consider the other options.
>
> Thoughts?
>
I think we are currently fine. It would be good of course to have several
list moderators in different time zones - this post was an obvious spam,
and I am sure it would be removed by any moderator who saw it first.
Cheers
Yaroslav
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Speaking from my experience as a list administrator for a number of the
Wikimedia mailing lists:
Letting people subscribe to and know of the existence of the mailing list
is a good idea at the moment. The user that sent this email is subscribed
to the mailing list so we need the list admin (Erik at this point but we
can have more) to unsubscribe them.
The list is already set so that non-members cannot send a message to it,
but as you can see if they do subscribe to the list then they can post
freely. We don't usually require list admin approval for subscription
requests as this is a public list, but here are the options:
a) Require list admin approval for subscription - doesn't make sense to me
as its not a private list, so you would likely approve that spammer anyways.
b) Set posts for new subscribers to require moderation (approved by a list
admin before they are sent to the list) - this could stop any potential
influx of spam and legitimate subscribers could be unmoderated once they
have posted.
c) Remove the advertising of the mailing list from the site notice.
d) Do nothing yet.
I think Option D is the best at the moment, as this email is likely to just
be a one off so we can unsubscribe and ban this spammer. If the spam
increases, then we could consider the other options.
Thoughts?
Thehelpfulone
On Wednesday, January 16, 2013, Cacahuate wrote:
> Or maybe remove the "subscribe to mailing list" from the site notice
>
> Cacahuate
>
> On Jan 16, 2013, at 5:48 AM, James Heilman
> <jmh649(a)gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'jmh649(a)gmail.com');>>
> wrote:
>
> Looks like we need someone to screen the mail going out?
>
> J
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> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:47 AM, sanjay jain
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>> A diaper is a kind of underwear that allows one to defecate or
>> urinate in a discreet manner. When diapers become soiled, they
>> require changing; this process is often performed by a second person
>> such as a parent or caregiver. Failure to change a diaper on a
>> regular enough basis can result in diaper rash.http://www.easyfit.in
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Hi!
If we would like to disable anon edits on Wikivoyage in sv; what's the
procedure? This was intended to be done when we were still Wikitravel, but
got lost in the transitions.
Mattias
Forwarding from Wikimedia-l.
Cheers
Yaroslav
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Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage: Chance, bore, or hazard
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 23:00:08 +0100
From: Ziko van Dijk <vandijk(a)wmnederland.nl>
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
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Dear colleagues,
Since November 2012, Wikivoyage is a part of the Wikimedia movement. I
have come to some thoughts about this old/new project, both from the
perspective of a collaborator and from the perspective of the
movement.
Chance:
Wikivoyage has a huge potential; it may open the movement for new
collaborators who were not attracted enough by Wikipedia. There is
still low hanging fruit, and there are working chapters - and the WMF
- to support the new family member. Integrating Wikivoyage is also a
challenge for the movement, it has to prove that it is capable to do
so. (And recommend itself for other wikis to join.)
Bore:
But, if Wikivoyage fails to make use of its potential, it will be one
more Wikimedia wiki rather small and limited in range, such as
Wikiquote or Wikinews. A community grown over the years may be good in
binding (linking the existing members to each other), but less in
bridging (being open for new members and contacting others). We see
the same phenomenon (that new people find it difficult their way, or
are even expelled more or less explicitly) also with Wikipedia, but on
a much higher level. Also Wikipedia loses community members slowly,
with difficulties acquiring new ones.
Hazard:
Wikipedia developed a lot of rules over the years, often after heavy
debates and scandals. For example, the Seigenthaler incident and other
cases of calumny led to the policy about Biographies of Living People.
Wikivoyage has still a rather limited set of rules, and wishes to
remain so. Wikipedia is neutral, Wikipedia uses references, while
Wikivoyage allows to criticize e.g. a restaurant and does not require
a source. But where is the limit between exercising one's freedom of
speech and libel? Scandals can backfire to the whole movement.
In my humble opinion, this is a good moment for Wikivoyagers (old and
new ones alike) to engage in discussions about style, limitations,
good practices, and improve the site to make it newbies easier to
join. With the good will from all sides, Wikivoyage should become a
chance for the movement rather than anything else.
Kind regards
Ziko
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