That would be wonderful. (I don't think PHPUnit is the way to go, since translators would only get checks whether message looks like it *should*, not the context). When translating a complex extension, like FlaggedRevs or AbuseFilter you have to develop quite a large dictionary of concepts that should be somehow consistent. This attempt at consitency somehow leads to unclear messages as seen in the real life. So having a possibility to have a pre-flight test of the translation (or even watch the demo of the original in action) is something Selenium could deinitely help. In many cases, translators do not have permission to experience some interface in the live environment (CheckUser, AbuseFilter, etc.). Could Selenium solve this problem as well? Is it just mocking up the interface or do I need a instance behind that is somehow setup somewhere? //Marcin

Στις 23-03-2011, ημέρα Τετ, και ώρα 02:03 +0100, ο/η Platonides έγραψε: I've been beating this drum for years (that translators need to be able to see their message(s) in context). But having to watch an automated test suite exercise all of the features of an extension in order to check the 5 new messages you are translating, seems less than efficient. What would be nice for a first take would be if, from translatewiki, one could click a link that would take one to a list of screens that show the message in question, with the text highlighted even. Even if the only thing we had to work from was a display of the English language texts in context, that would still be a big step up from where we are now. Ariel

Hello, I think, Selenium provides a screenschot feature. So if we can get Selenium to dump screens and name them according to a sensible scheme, that could produce the material you ask for. This could then be done for the English language as a kind of template screen set and also for the target language, at certain points, e.g. before a new minor release comes out. Cheers, Markus -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: wikitech-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Ariel T. Glenn Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. März 2011 07:04 An: Wikimedia developers Betreff: Re: [Wikitech-l] testing of localization Στις 23-03-2011, ημέρα Τετ, και ώρα 02:03 +0100, ο/η Platonides έγραψε: I've been beating this drum for years (that translators need to be able to see their message(s) in context). But having to watch an automated test suite exercise all of the features of an extension in order to check the 5 new messages you are translating, seems less than efficient. What would be nice for a first take would be if, from translatewiki, one could click a link that would take one to a list of screens that show the message in question, with the text highlighted even. Even if the only thing we had to work from was a display of the English language texts in context, that would still be a big step up from where we are now. Ariel _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l