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Hunter Fernandes

23 Dec 2011 23 Dec '11

11:41 p.m.

Is there a 404 hook that triggers when a user tries to look up a page that doesnt exists in the database? It should hopefully replace the page shown<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SomePageThatDoesn'tExists> . - Hunter F.

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Platonides

24 Dec 24 Dec

1:31 a.m.

On 24/12/11 00:41, Hunter Fernandes wrote:

Is there a 404 hook that triggers when a user tries to look up a page that doesnt exists in the database? It should hopefully replace the page shown<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SomePageThatDoesn'tExists> . - Hunter F.

That text "Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search..." is a message thay you can modify in the MediaWiki namespace. Why do you want to do?

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Hunter Fernandes

1:49 a.m.

Well, a site is being moved from a flat weebly layout (this_is_my_page.html) to a wiki style (This_is_my_page), and I wanted to, on every 404 page not found, check an internal conversion table ( this_is_my_page.html -> This_is_my_page ) and then 301 to that page. Is it possible? - Hunter F. On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Platonides <Platonides(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 24/12/11 00:41, Hunter Fernandes wrote:

Is there a 404 hook that triggers when a user tries to look up a page

that

doesnt exists in the database? It should hopefully replace the page shown<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SomePageThatDoesn'tExists> . - Hunter F.

That text "Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search..." is a message thay you can modify in the MediaWiki namespace. Why do you want to do? _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Tim Landscheidt

5:59 a.m.

Hunter Fernandes <h.g.fern(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Well, a site is being moved from a flat weebly layout (this_is_my_page.html) to a wiki style (This_is_my_page), and I wanted to, on every 404 page not found, check an internal conversion table ( this_is_my_page.html -> This_is_my_page ) and then 301 to that page. Is it possible? [...]

Wouldn't it be easier to just dump the internal conversion table as .htaccess rewrites (or your server's equivalent)? Tim

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Hunter Fernandes

6:01 a.m.

How much overhead is that? - Hunter F. On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Tim Landscheidt <tim(a)tim-landscheidt.de>wrote;wrote:

Hunter Fernandes <h.g.fern(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Well, a site is being moved from a flat weebly layout (this_is_my_page.html) to a wiki style (This_is_my_page), and I wanted

to,

on every 404 page not found, check an internal conversion table ( this_is_my_page.html -> This_is_my_page ) and then 301 to that page. Is it possible? [...]

Wouldn't it be easier to just dump the internal conversion table as .htaccess rewrites (or your server's equivalent)? Tim _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Jeremy Baron

6:21 a.m.

How big is your conversion table? is it sufficient to just redirect all URLs that end with .html to remove the .html? (then you don't need a table) IIRC, the traditional way on WMF wikis to do dynamic changes to the "no page here" page or redirects based on a pattern is with javascript. (e.g. in [[mediawiki:common.js]]) One use that I think existed once on some wiki was to do a search for the page name and redirect automatically if one existed with the same spelling but some letters in a different case. (DUMBO vs. Dumbo) You could probably also do something with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/ShowMissingArticle -Jeremy On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 01:01, Hunter Fernandes <h.g.fern(a)gmail.com> wrote:

How much overhead is that? - Hunter F. On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Tim Landscheidt <tim(a)tim-landscheidt.de>wrote;wrote:

Hunter Fernandes <h.g.fern(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Well, a site is being moved from a flat weebly layout (this_is_my_page.html) to a wiki style (This_is_my_page), and I wanted

to,

on every 404 page not found, check an internal conversion table ( this_is_my_page.html -> This_is_my_page ) and then 301 to that page. Is it possible? [...]

Wouldn't it be easier to just dump the internal conversion table as .htaccess rewrites (or your server's equivalent)? Tim _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Jeremy Baron

6:23 a.m.

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 01:21, Jeremy Baron <jeremy(a)tuxmachine.com> wrote:

How big is your conversion table? is it sufficient to just redirect all URLs that end with .html to remove the .html? (then you don't need a table) IIRC, the traditional way on WMF wikis to do dynamic changes to the "no page here" page or redirects based on a pattern is with javascript. (e.g. in [[mediawiki:common.js]]) One use that I think existed once on some wiki was to do a search for the page name and redirect automatically if one existed with the same spelling but some letters in a different case. (DUMBO vs. Dumbo) You could probably also do something with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/ShowMissingArticle -Jeremy

See also http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewritemap -Jeremy

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Tim Landscheidt

8:15 p.m.

Hunter Fernandes <h.g.fern(a)gmail.com> wrote:

How much overhead is that? [...]

I don't know. Why not measure it and then report here? Tim

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Hunter Fernandes

11:28 p.m.

What would be the correct way of measuring something like this? On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Tim Landscheidt <tim(a)tim-landscheidt.de>wrote;wrote:

Hunter Fernandes <h.g.fern(a)gmail.com> wrote:

How much overhead is that? [...]

I don't know. Why not measure it and then report here? Tim _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Dusk

11:32 p.m.

On 2011-12-23, at 22:01, Hunter Fernandes wrote:

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Tim Landscheidt <tim(a)tim-landscheidt.de>wrote;wrote:

Wouldn't it be easier to just dump the internal conversion table as .htaccess rewrites (or your server's equivalent)?

How much overhead is that? - Hunter F

Zero, or actually even negative. It takes longer for MediaWiki to start up and figure out the redirect than it does for your web server to do the job itself.

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