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Essjay

16 Jun 2006 16 Jun '06

3:52 a.m.

Important notice: Brion totally rocks. Images can now be undeleted...Yes, I said undeleted. I'll be leading group worship at the Church of the Almighty Brion at 7PM UTC tomorrow. Essjay -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Essjay Wikipedia:The Free Encyclopedia http://www.wikipedia.org/

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Erik Moeller

16 Jun 16 Jun

4:28 a.m.

Excellent. Many thanks to Brion for implementing this much requested feature. Erik

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Anthere

6:11 a.m.

Essjay wrote:

Important notice: Brion totally rocks. Images can now be undeleted...Yes, I said undeleted. I'll be leading group worship at the Church of the Almighty Brion at 7PM UTC tomorrow. Essjay

/me goes collect change to purchase a candle :-)

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Tomer Chachamu

17 Jun 17 Jun

11 a.m.

On 6/16/06, Essjay <essjaywiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Important notice: Brion totally rocks. Images can now be undeleted...Yes, I said undeleted.

/me thought image deletions were permanent for disk-space reasons. So can we see an image before undeleting it?

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Essjay

11:04 a.m.

Tomer Chachamu wrote:

On 6/16/06, Essjay <essjaywiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Important notice: Brion totally rocks. Images can now be undeleted...Yes, I said undeleted.

/me thought image deletions were permanent for disk-space reasons.

Yep. They can be previewed just like a deleted page can be. Essjay -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Essjay Wikipedia:The Free Encyclopedia http://www.wikipedia.org/

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Brion Vibber

11:21 a.m.

Tomer Chachamu wrote:

On 6/16/06, Essjay <essjaywiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Important notice: Brion totally rocks. Images can now be undeleted...Yes, I said undeleted.

/me thought image deletions were permanent for disk-space reasons.

No.

So can we see an image before undeleting it?

Yes. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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Rob Church

12:44 p.m.

On 17/06/06, Tomer Chachamu <the.r3m0t(a)gmail.com> wrote:

/me thought image deletions were permanent for disk-space reasons.

Why the hell does everybody seem to have thought that? There was never, as far as I am aware, any policy related to saving disk space that would cause that. It's simply that there was a lack of code until now. :) Rob Church

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Mark Williamson

12:50 p.m.

It makes quite a bit of sense. Say, for example, that 100 images are deleted daily from Wikimedia projects. If they are erased permanently, that would mean we saved at least a little bit of space, as opposed to keeping them around forever. I don't know if we ever erased them permanently, though, and I also don't know with wham frequency images are deleted, and I'm also pretty sure disco space was never a real problem. Mark On 17/06/06, Rob Church <robchur(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 17/06/06, Tomer Chachamu <the.r3m0t(a)gmail.com> wrote:

/me thought image deletions were permanent for disk-space reasons.

Why the hell does everybody seem to have thought that? There was never, as far as I am aware, any policy related to saving disk space that would cause that. It's simply that there was a lack of code until now. :) Rob Church _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Chad Perrin

6:56 p.m.

On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 05:50:08AM -0700, Mark Williamson wrote:

I don't know if we ever erased them permanently, though, and I also don't know with wham frequency images are deleted, and I'm also pretty sure disco space was never a real problem.

Yeah, I've always had room to dance. . . . By the way, a message to Brion: you da man. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] "A script is what you give the actors. A program is what you give the audience." - Larry Wall

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Jay R. Ashworth

7:09 p.m.

On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 12:56:24PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:

On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 05:50:08AM -0700, Mark Williamson wrote:

I don't know if we ever erased them permanently, though, and I also don't know with wham frequency images are deleted, and I'm also pretty sure disco space was never a real problem.

Yeah, I've always had room to dance.

Well, of course, Chad. It takes you less space to dance than, say, me.

By the way, a message to Brion: you da man.

He sure is. Cheers, -- jr 'will kiss ass for food' a -- Jay R. Ashworth jra(a)baylink.com Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates The Things I Think '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail?

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Jay R. Ashworth

6:44 p.m.

On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 01:44:46PM +0100, Rob Church wrote:

On 17/06/06, Tomer Chachamu <the.r3m0t(a)gmail.com> wrote:

/me thought image deletions were permanent for disk-space reasons.

Why the hell does everybody seem to have thought that? There was never, as far as I am aware, any policy related to saving disk space that would cause that. It's simply that there was a lack of code until now. :)

Likely (puts helpdesk hat on) because they knew that that otherwise useful functionality wasn't provided, and in lieu of an *actual* reason why not, they modeled it in their head, and that's what they came up with. Apply 'telephone' to the result; blather, wince, repeat. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra(a)baylink.com Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates The Things I Think '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail?

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Timwi

18 Jun 18 Jun

8:13 p.m.

Rob Church wrote:

On 17/06/06, Tomer Chachamu <the.r3m0t(a)gmail.com> wrote:

/me thought image deletions were permanent for disk-space reasons.

Why the hell does everybody seem to have thought that?

I think this preconception has emerged when, a year or two ago, everyone here suddenly went crazy about saving article revisions as diffs, or gzip-compressed, or both, and several people came up with clever schemes and algorithms, and in the corresponding discussion disk space was constantly mentioned, and discussion of its efficiency (speed of retrieval) was silenced. Timwi

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Anthere
Brion Vibber
Chad Perrin
Erik Moeller
Essjay
Jay R. Ashworth
Mark Williamson
Rob Church
Timwi
Tomer Chachamu