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Proposal to show pdf icon for external and media: links to PDF files (having fileexternsion .pdf)

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Thomas Gries

9 Jan 2005 9 Jan '05

6:02 p.m.

I propose to show in general a small ***pdf icon*** for such links pointing to a PDF file. This would be similar to small icon external.png, which is already shown after every _external_ link. It could be handled in monobook.css. Tom

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Gerard Meijssen

9 Jan 9 Jan

7:26 p.m.

New subject: Proposal to show pdf icon for external and media: links to PDF files (having fileexternsion .pdf)

Thomas Gries wrote:

I propose to show in general a small ***pdf icon*** for such links pointing to a PDF file. This would be similar to small icon external.png, which is already shown after every _external_ link. It could be handled in monobook.css. Tom

The current "external.png" implementation is horribly broken in languages that are right to left like Farsi, Hebrew, Arabic. So let's create a "pdf icon" only when the implementation of the external.png is fixed. Let's not add more garbage in a manner that we know is broken. Thanks, GerardM

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Gabriel Wicke

7:42 p.m.

New subject: Proposal to show pdf icon for external and media: links to PDF files (having fileexternsion .pdf)

On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 20:26 +0100, Gerard Meijssen wrote:

The current "external.png" implementation is horribly broken in languages that are right to left like Farsi, Hebrew, Arabic. So let's create a "pdf icon" only when the implementation of the external.png is fixed. Let's not add more garbage in a manner that we know is broken.

The implementation is simply following the CSS standards, but browsers unfortunately tend to be more broken in RTL languages. The solution usually is to hide the style from known-as-broken browsers while allowing more standard-conform ones to render the extra hint. This is called forward compatibility. -- Gabriel Wicke MediaWiki hosting, support and development http://wikidev.net wicke(a)wikidev.net Tel(SIP) +49 (0)1801-7775555258, Mob +49 (0)177 2065127 Eckernförder Str.58, 24116 Kiel

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Gerard Meijssen

7:55 p.m.

New subject: Proposal to show pdf icon for external and media: links to PDF files (having fileexternsion .pdf)

Gabriel Wicke wrote:

On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 20:26 +0100, Gerard Meijssen wrote:

The current "external.png" implementation is horribly broken in languages that are right to left like Farsi, Hebrew, Arabic. So let's create a "pdf icon" only when the implementation of the external.png is fixed. Let's not add more garbage in a manner that we know is broken.

The implementation is simply following the CSS standards, but browsers unfortunately tend to be more broken in RTL languages. The solution usually is to hide the style from known-as-broken browsers while allowing more standard-conform ones to render the extra hint. This is called forward compatibility.

I use Firefox 1.0, that one is broken ?? IE is broken and does not show it in the first place. So for whom have we coded this ?? Or is it OK to show it in the left to right languages because we then do not see the problem ?? So, by all means hide it for Firefox, it really makes Farsi unreadable as the first characters are overlapped by this "must have" thingie. GerardM

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Brion Vibber

8:09 p.m.

New subject: Proposal to show pdf icon for external and media: links to PDF files (having fileexternsion .pdf)

On Jan 9, 2005, at 11:55 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:

Gabriel Wicke wrote:

The implementation is simply following the CSS standards, but browsers unfortunately tend to be more broken in RTL languages. The solution usually is to hide the style from known-as-broken browsers while allowing more standard-conform ones to render the extra hint. This is called forward compatibility.

I use Firefox 1.0, that one is broken ??

Yes, Mozilla/Firefox are known to have some bad problems with RTL. Please report the bug at http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/, and it might get fixed!

IE is broken and does not show it in the first place.

"The solution usually is to hide the style from known-as-broken browsers while allowing more standard-conform ones to render the extra hint." -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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Brion Vibber
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Gerard Meijssen
Thomas Gries