Andrew Garrett hett schreven:
I'm not entirely sure why you think that the
technical staff need to
report operational minutiae to you.
Cause it's their job to serve the
community. And they haven't served a
big part of the community since ten months in regard to Lucene. They
don't need to report to _me_ but to the community.
If you wanted to know the status
of getting Lucene 2.1 on small projects, perhaps it would be prudent
to send a mailing list post asking what the status was, rather than a
rant about "discrimination" against smaller projects.
I didn't
"rant" and I didn't use the word "discrimination". I only used
it in quotation marks after somebody else misinterpreted my words in
that way. That misinterpretation occurred on foundation-l (where this
thread was forwarded to [not by me]), so if you don't read foundation-l
you couldn't know about that. My original post only contained "I feel a
bit neglected" and "It seems, we are very low at the priority list".
That's far from ranting. It's rather a "fact" after ten months.
If you make an
explicit request for information, there's no reason to suspect it
won't be answered in a reasonable amount of time. If you lecture
people about ignoring small projects, and bury your questions in that
lecture, you are less likely to get a response.
It isn't that the technical staff don't care, it's just that Lucene
2.1 on smaller projects is one of a billion other things that tech
staff need to work on, and without minimising the importance of other
languages to Wikipedia's core mission, some quick stats show that
about 70-80% of all hits come in English, German and French (totally
arbitrary, tainted with Western selection bias, three big languages).
That's basically "Small projects are no priority", isn't it?
It should also be noted that, of those staff, only
Brion, Tim, Rob,
Mark, and to an extent Tomasz are involved in these sorts of
operations matters. The rest are software developers.
Therefore, while you should, by all means, request information as to
the status of certain operations things like this -- but posting
outraged lectures on the importance of small languages isn't at all
productive. You should split the problem up into its constituent
problems, which are all separate (the Toolserver, Lucene, and query
pages on small wikis), and try to have each dealt with by itself,
rather than trying to lump it all together as a laundry list of
complaints. You will have much better success in achieving your aims
if you present your problems in this way.
Andrew Garrett
"outraged lectures" Where did I give outraged lectures? I'm
puzzled. I'm
really are.
And I don't know what the purpose of "splitting up" the problems would
be. If Brion, Tim, Rob, Mark, and Tomasz do not read the list, that will
make no difference. If they do, they can answer in response to this post:
Is it correct, that the delay in rolling out LuceneSearch on all wikis
is due to RAM shortage?
If so, is additional RAM ordered or when will it be ordered?
If it is ordered, when will it be installed and when will the newest
version of Lucene go live on all wikis?
If it is not yet ordered, when will it be ordered, what is the expected
time frame until Lucene will be fully active on all projects?
If RAM is not the reason for the delay, what is the reason?
Will it be possible to activate regular updates for all special pages on
smaller wikis?
If so, when will this happen?
If not, what's the reason?
Marcus Buck