can i mod the [~~~~~]magic word's data style? - Wikitech-l

Brian Wolff

30 Nov 30 Nov

4:30 a.m.

On 11/29/13, Sen <kik888(a)gmail.com> wrote:

i know it's depend the mediawiki language,but can i change it by my own?i use chinese mediawiki,but i wana the mediawiki signature time format use english. sorry again,if this question should not ask in this maillist,plz let me know i should send which maillist...i very know to the maillist,and my english is pretty bad too. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Hi. This question is probably better suited to the mediawiki-l mailing list then this one, but in any case here is the answer: There's two internationalization changes in play here. First of all, month names get translated. This is something that you cannot change without modifying core (as far as I know). Second the date format changes (for example, where in the date the year is put). This one you can control. Just add to the bottom of LocalSettings.php: $wgDefaultUserOptions['date'] = 'mdy'; and you will get something like "01:22, 11月 30, 2013 (UTC)" instead of "2013年11月30日 (六) 01:26 (UTC) ". As noted the month names are still shown in Chinese. If you do something like: $wgDefaultUserOptions['date'] = 'ISO 8601'; You will get dates that are all numeric like 2013-11-30T01:28:42 (UTC). Other options for the date format preference include dmy, ymd. By default it has the value "default" which is equivalent to the value "zh" in the chinese internationalization. --Bawolff

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Sen Slybe

5:53 a.m.

That's going to a crazy place:)I think I just use the lazy one by now.thx your hack,that's really cool to inside the core and with some mod for it. Regrades Sen From SLboat(http://see.sl088.com)

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在 2013年11月30日，下午1:28，Nathan Larson <nathanlarson3141(a)gmail.com> 写道：

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Brian Wolff <bawolff(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/29/13, Sen <kik888(a)gmail.com> wrote: i know it's depend the mediawiki language,but can i change it by my own?i use chinese mediawiki,but i wana the mediawiki signature time format use english. sorry again,if this question should not ask in this maillist,plz let me know i should send which maillist...i very know to the maillist,and my english is pretty bad too. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Hi. This question is probably better suited to the mediawiki-l mailing list then this one, but in any case here is the answer: There's two internationalization changes in play here. First of all, month names get translated. This is something that you cannot change without modifying core (as far as I know). Second the date format changes (for example, where in the date the year is put). This one you can control. Just add to the bottom of LocalSettings.php: $wgDefaultUserOptions['date'] = 'mdy'; and you will get something like "01:22, 11月 30, 2013 (UTC)" instead of "2013年11月30日 (六) 01:26 (UTC) ". As noted the month names are still shown in Chinese. If you do something like: $wgDefaultUserOptions['date'] = 'ISO 8601'; You will get dates that are all numeric like 2013-11-30T01:28:42 (UTC). Other options for the date format preference include dmy, ymd. By default it has the value "default" which is equivalent to the value "zh" in the chinese internationalization. --Bawolff _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

To implement what he is asking for, I hacked Parser::pstPass2() in includes/parser/Parser.php as follows: Change: $key = 'timezone-' . strtolower( trim( $tzMsg ) ); to: $key = 'signature-timezone-' . strtolower( trim( $tzMsg ) ); Change: $d = $wgContLang->timeanddate( $ts, false, false ) . " ($tzMsg)"; to: $en = Language::factory ( 'en' ); $d = $en->timeanddate( $ts, false, false ) . " ($tzMsg)"; Next, write the following PHP script and run it: <?php $abbreviations = array_keys ( DateTimeZone::listAbbreviations() ); foreach ( $abbreviations as $abbreviation ) { echo "MediaWiki:Signature-timezone-$abbreviation\n"; } This will give you the list of MediaWiki: namespace pages you need to create, e.g. MediaWiki:Signature-timezone-utc, MediaWiki:Signature-timezone-est, etc. There's probably an easier way, though. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Sen Slybe

6:12 a.m.

This's my first time talk at a open source mail list,I got say this is very feel great,I personally use mediawiki to record what I seeing,what I think,I really like it,maybe first it's kind hard to learn like about the wired wiki text language,special the table syntax ,I still this it's suck,to many [|] in it,but after that,I just can't help myself to love it,it have a lot expend way to use,I can just add a js gadget (which I had add a lot),and if I WANA go far,I can make a PHP extension,it's very easy to expend,just never like other web program I have use. Sure,the mediawiki may look like past time(old ui like a text editor),not fashion,but for me,it's good enough to back the simple easy way. But the most magic I just have seen by now,the guy who make mw,are bunch stronger guy,but just make it work ,and just better and better:) Regrades Sen From SLboat(http://see.sl088.com) 在 2013年11月30日，下午1:54，Brian Wolff <bawolff(a)gmail.com> 写道：

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To implement what he is asking for, I hacked Parser::pstPass2() in includes/parser/Parser.php as follows: Change: $key = 'timezone-' . strtolower( trim( $tzMsg ) ); to: $key = 'signature-timezone-' . strtolower( trim( $tzMsg ) ); Change: $d = $wgContLang->timeanddate( $ts, false, false ) . " ($tzMsg)"; to: $en = Language::factory ( 'en' ); $d = $en->timeanddate( $ts, false, false ) . " ($tzMsg)"; Next, write the following PHP script and run it: <?php $abbreviations = array_keys ( DateTimeZone::listAbbreviations() ); foreach ( $abbreviations as $abbreviation ) { echo "MediaWiki:Signature-timezone-$abbreviation\n"; } This will give you the list of MediaWiki: namespace pages you need to create, e.g. MediaWiki:Signature-timezone-utc, MediaWiki:Signature-timezone-est, etc. There's probably an easier way, though. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Standard disclaimer about we do not reccomend making hacks to core mediawiki, and such hacks are unsupported, yadda] The timezone messages generally aren't translated (fun fact: the timezone UTC had its name chosen because it makes sense in no language, so no language was favoured), so he probably wouldn't need to touch that at all. But if that was a concern, the easier way would be to add ->inLanguage ( 'en' ) to the wfMessage function chain (replacing ->inContentLanguage () ). -bawolff _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Brian Wolff

6:09 a.m.

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There's two internationalization changes in play here. First of all, month names get translated. This is something that you cannot change without modifying core (as far as I know).

Actually what am I talking about. The obvious solution to this is to just create the page MediaWiki:January on your wiki (and the other months), editing the month names to whatever you want. MediaWiki will use whatever is on the page MediaWiki:January as the word for January, which allows you to modify the output without editing mediawiki source code. -bawolff

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Sen Slybe

6:21 a.m.

Maybe I can hook the content before mediawiki take care the magi word ,and I replace it first by the time I want ,so I will never heart the core code,and just make my thought work,and can use what ever time format u like by change it in my own extension Regrades Sen From SLboat(http://see.sl088.com)

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在 2013年11月30日，下午2:15，Nathan Larson <nathanlarson3141(a)gmail.com> 写道： On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Brian Wolff <bawolff(a)gmail.com> wrote:

There's two internationalization changes in play here. First of all, month names get translated. This is something that you cannot change without modifying core (as far as I know).

Actually what am I talking about. The obvious solution to this is to just create the page MediaWiki:January on your wiki (and the other months), editing the month names to whatever you want. MediaWiki will use whatever is on the page MediaWiki:January as the word for January, which allows you to modify the output without editing mediawiki source code.

I was going to do it that way but he said that he only wanted the signature timestamps to be in English and the rest of the site in Chinese, and I was concerned that maybe MediaWiki:January might be used for other purposes as well. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Bináris

8:06 a.m.

2013/11/30 Sen <kik888(a)gmail.com>

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i know it's depend the mediawiki language,but can i change it by my own?i use chinese mediawiki,but i wana the mediawiki signature time format use english.

This is the best way to confuse bots and make their task impossible. I think time format in a given wiki is not some fancy motive but a basic kind of information to be standardized. Sorry to controverse you, but I think like a programmer and not like a designer. But if your wiki is some private one and not a WikiMedia wiki, this opinion makes no sens, of course.

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