On 19/10/06, Simetrical <Simetrical+wikitech(a)gmail.com> wrote: Perhaps after single login it may be good to have a pan-Wikimedia user control space where blocks are discussed/controlled multilingually. I've no idea who could be a member of this space (all admins on any Wikimedia project?). -- Oldak Quill (oldakquill(a)gmail.com)

On 10/20/06, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote: Is it? Even in China where they may need to use open proxies to edit the Chinese Wikipedia (which is still blocked for some users there)? Wikis should be informed of users who are editing and are blocked elsewhere, but I think automatically blocking a user or IP on every wiki is often going to cause more problems than it solves. Angela.

On 20/10/06, Kelly Martin <kelly.lynn.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: Thinking about it it probably is a bad idea although there are still other options to explore: pan-Wikimedia blockers drawn from the Wikimedia admin population based on history and whatnot. I would support the Foundation providing an open proxy listing service I think there should also be better communication between projects about vandals. At the moment there is not much warning that a particular IP/username has raised problems on other projects. With single login it will be easier to vandalise from project-to-project. Some kind of meta communication would help tackle these kinds of vandals far more quickly and effectively. On 21/10/06, Steve Bennett <stevage(a)gmail.com> wrote: Two strikes would probably be too few. Admins on one project (say en.wikipedia) are often admins on another (commons). Problem admins having a issues with a user they are more likely to track them down on the other project and block them (particularly if they know that doing so will block the user across Wikimedia). Taking into account who has blocked the user on each project would help. On 21/10/06, Timwi <timwi(a)gmx.net> wrote: Of course people should be able to edit from open proxies for this reason (ie. just block anon editing). -- Oldak Quill (oldakquill(a)gmail.com)

Given the competence of the average admin on enwiki, I think this is a phenomenally bad idea. Giving select admins the authority to impose all-project blocks for IP addresses or even named users is probably something that is needed, but this is a very powerful privilege and should be extended on a very limited basis with input from multiple projects. Passing a beauty contest on enwiki should not give one the power to block people on commons, dewikt, or frwikisource. I would support the Foundation providing an open proxy listing service to which individual projects could subscribe to or not depending on their particular circumstances. Most projects would subscribe, perhaps with certain exclusions; some, like zhwiki, would probably not subscribe. It would be a project-by-project decision whether or not to subscribe. A DNSBL is the obvious way to do this. Selecting people to maintain this list should be done on a multiproject basis, similar to how stewards or meta admins are elected, or alternatively selected directly by the Foundation. In any case, this is 10% technical and 90% policy, which suggests that some other mailing list is more appropriate for the discussion. Kelly On 10/20/06, Piotr Derbeth Kubowicz <derbeth(a)wp.pl> wrote:

On 10/20/06, Derbeth <derbeth(a)wp.pl> wrote: Would a "two strikes and you're out" policy (get blocked on two of the sites, get blocked on them all) help? Steve