I wrote an RFC about scoping Common.css and Mobile.css:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Scoping_site_CSS
In short: this could help us separate CSS rules added by administrators
from the core UI rules of MediaWiki.
What we would get:
* UI (chrome) CSS more predictable and broken less often
* no crazy UI styling as seen at https://nv.wikipedia.org
Please share your thoughts.
--
Juliusz
Hi.
Is there a status update regarding the MediaWiki Release Management RFP?
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_Management_RFP#Timeline> indicates
that the goal for an announcement was the second week of July.
Apologies in advance if I've simply overlooked an update (I briefly
checked my mail archives, but could only find a reference to July 8).
MZMcBride
Better late than never:
Recently, I've worked on a document to describe when it is necessary
for a user to have administrator rights in bugzilla.wikimedia.org.
It affects a small number of Bugzilla users (less than 30) who were
contacted via email while drafting the policy.
The policy can be found at
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Bugzilla_administrator_rights_policy
It was written in order to explain why a specific user needs to be an
administrator (or why it might not be needed).
Following the principle of least privilege, Bugzilla administrator
rights are only required for a small number of rather uncommon tasks,
with the one exception being editing Bugzilla user rights (if you want
to know more: these tasks are also listed in the policy).
A combination of other, more specific Bugzilla rights very often
allows executing the same tasks, so nobody will lose any ability to
perform tasks in Bugzilla that s/he could also perform before.
As usual, a list of current Bugzilla administrators can be found at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/System_administrators#List
I'm happy to answer any questions that may arise (and that were not
already answered in
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-June/070062.html ).
Thanks,
andre
--
Andre Klapper | ak-47(a)gmx.net
http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
Hi everyone,
So, we've got a bad disk on the Gerrit box that needs to be swapped out.
This is going to
cause a little bit of downtime while we fix things up. Therefore, Gerrit
will be unavailable on
Thursday, July 18th (that's 2 days from now) starting at 14:00 UTC (10am
EST, 7am PST)
and going for 1 hour (until 15:00 UTC). Hopefully it won't take the full
hour, but I'd like to be
cautious :)
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them here or e-mail me
privately.
Thanks for your understanding!
-Chad
Maybe it could be done with just the Referer field on the second
request, without needing to log two different page requests and
correlate them.
> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:14:42 -0400
> From: David Cuenca<dacuetu(a)gmail.com>
>
> Good idea, it could also help to know which are the links more used in a
> disambiguation page to sort them by importance.
>
> Micru
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Nicolas Vervelle<nvervelle(a)gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> >Interesting idea...
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Jon Robson<jdlrobson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>>> > >I understand there is an issue that needs solving where various pages
>>> > >link to disambiguation pages. These need fixing to point at the
>>> > >appropriate thing.
>>> > >
>>> > >I had a thought on how this might be done using a variant of
>>> > >EventLogging...
>>> > >
>>> > >When a user clicks on a link that is a disambiguation page and then
>>> > >clicks on a link on that page we log an event that contains
>>> > >
>>> > >* page user was on before
>>> > >* page user is on now
>>> > >
>>> > >If we were to collect this data it would allow us to statistically
>>> > >suggest what the correct disambiguation page might be.
>>> > >
>>> > >To take a more concrete theoretical example:
>>> > >* If I am on the Wiki page for William Blake and click on London I am
>>> > >taken tohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_(disambiguation)
>>> > >* I look through and see London (poem) and click on it
>>> > >* An event is fired that links London (poem) to William Blake.
>>> > >
>>> > >Obviously this won't always be accurate but I'd expect generally this
>>> > >would work (obviously we'd need to filter out bots)
>>> > >
>>> > >Then when editing William Blake say that disambiguation links are
>>> > >surfaced. If I go to fix one it might prompt me that 80% of visitors
>>> > >go from William Blake to London (poem).
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >Have we done anything like this in the past? (Collecting data from
>>> > >readers and informing editors)
>>> > >
>>> > >I can imagine applying this sort of pattern could have various other
>>> > >uses...
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >--
>>> > >Jon Robson
>>> > >http://jonrobson.me.uk
>>> > >@rakugojon
>>> > >
+wiki tech
On 17 Jul 2013 17:39, "Jared Zimmerman" <jared.zimmerman(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Hey Yuvi,
the link got stripped from the mailing list email but its here
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_Experiments Mark Holmquist is the dev on
the feature.
Currently Mark is working on the Beta Experiments framework (nothing to do
with HotCat, yet or planned) The first experiment will be an updated
gallery control that is part of the upcoming Multimedia improvements lead
by Fabrice.
However once the framework is in place it should be much easier for
designer and developers to create experiments on the desktop site. Unlike
gadgets the plan is that code goes into Beta, is validated, feedback is
given from the community and its either scrapped, iterated, or integrated,
rather than stagnating in gadgets forever.
You can see in the image on the feature page above some hints at other
ideas we have for experiments in the future.
Let me know if you have bandwidth or 20% time to participate in working
with the design team to either create new experiments or help migrate some
of the more established gadgets into the Beta Experiments environment.
Jared
*
*
*
*
*Jared Zimmerman * \\ Director of User Experience \\ Wikimedia
Foundation
M : +1 415 609 4043 | : @JaredZimmerman<https://twitter.com/JaredZimmerman>
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Yuvi Panda <yuvipanda(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > He says:
> > "HotCat is number one on my list of gadgets to get some UX love and
> > turn into a beta experiment... If everything goes well while its in
> > experiments then it gets integrated into core extensions. Mark H. is
> > coding the desktop beta experiments framework right now (literally
> > while I write this email)"
>
> Can you explain what this means? Is hexmode writing HotCat? Is he
> writing a framework to enable experiments on desktop? Was that
> discussed / announced anywhere?
>
>
> --
> Yuvi Panda T
> http://yuvi.in/blog
>
Is there any way to opt out of Liquid Threads and simply see the
underlying talk page? I really really dislike the interface and it's
been bugging me for some time... mostly due to it's reliance on
JavaScript and links generated to it tend to be broken.
--
Jon Robson
http://jonrobson.me.uk
@rakugojon
2013/7/16 Jon Robson <jdlrobson(a)gmail.com>:
> When a user clicks on a link that is a disambiguation page and then
> clicks on a link on that page we log an event that contains
>
> * page user was on before
> * page user is on now
>
> If we were to collect this data it would allow us to statistically
> suggest what the correct disambiguation page might be.
>
Has anyone done something like that before on Wikimedia sites (not
just for desambig, but for any kind of navigation pattern)? If yes,
are the results publicly available?
Thanks,
Straomi
Hi Rupert,
Thanks for the email.
But I think the query that you have answered was already answered by John. However, i thank you for the statement " if you really want we can do this
for you as well, but of course it would be necessary to know a little more details", once the client feels comfortable to provide more details I will share them. Also, the Mediawiki to mediawiki migration (export/import) is essential
especially now that we are transferring documents to our clients.
But in the meantime, my pressing question is that Is there a way to import/export Confluence pages (Atlassian Confluence 3.5.3) to our MediaWiki page (we call
them Docs Wiki)? It also needs to completely replicate the Confluence
page including the codes, images and links.
Thanks for your help!
If there is anything else, please let me know.
Thanks!
________________________________
From: rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com>
To: Ryan Rick Acta <riez_n(a)yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Export/Import Wiki questions
hi ryan,
as this is not really a wikimedia thing and to avoid "confidentiality
...", i took this off-list. if your client does not need to change the
documentation, imo it does not make a lot of sense to go the
complicated copy mediawiki to mediawiki way. just use offline
technology, like openzim and kiwix. if you really want we can do this
for you as well, but of course it would be necessary to know a little
more details.
rupert.
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Ryan Rick Acta <riez_n(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am a technical writer and I have a lot of questions.
>
>
> Our company has been using MediaWiki for their documentation.
>
>
> We have a new client that recently bought our products and now needs help in their documentation. Our product documentations are posted in our wiki site. The clients are now requesting that they have copies of our documentation.
>
> I am also proposing that the create/build their wiki site on MediaWiki to have an easy transition with regards to the documentation. Now the process of transferring the documentation will be exporting and importing wikis.
>
>
> I have found the following articles regarding importing/exporting wikis:
> * Help:Export: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Export
> * Help:Import: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Import
> Can you confirm that these are the articles that i need regarding importing/exporting wikis?
>
>
> Is it possible to import/export our wikis to a new MediaWiki for the client?
>
> Hope you can help me on this. I would really appreciate this.
>
>
> If there is anything else, please let me know.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS. I am unsure if i should directly name our company and the client. This is regarding the confidentiality clause.
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