After discussion with some people (especially Tannin) on the
en.wikipedia, I propose a few changes (more like additions) to the
thumbnail function.
Here's the "main proposal":
[[image:bla.jpg|thumb|some text]] generates a normal thumbnail
[[image:bla.jpg|thumb=bla_small.jpg|some text]] uses "bla_small.jpg"
as the thumbnail
This associates the manually created thumbnail with the larger image in
a machine-readable fashion. It should only be used if the manual
thumbnail is of significant better quality than the automatic one, or if
the manual thumbnail shows an alternate view (e.g., only a part) of the
larger image.
Additionally, the automatic thumbnail generation should be improved:
* Add a little sharpening, at least to photos (.jpg/.jpeg).
* Apparently, automatically generated thumbnails look nicer when they
are recaled by an exact even number. For example, for a 640x480 image, a
thumbnail of 200px is requested, generate one with a width of 213px
instead, as this is a factor of 33.3%, or 1/3. I propose to use a
variation of up to 10% from the requested width.
If there is no special reason *not* to do this, implementation can start
soon. At least the "main proposal" should be easy enough to code.
Magnus
I'm trying to find copies of the Apache and/or Squid logfiles, but all
I can locate are the Webalizer reports.
There are a variety of custom reports I'd like to generate, such as
ones that determine which links into a given article are most/least
used, etc. Webalizer doesn't provide adequate information to
determine this, and I'd need to write a custom Perl script to run on
the raw logfiles.
I'm assuming the logs aren't made public because of privacy concerns
(being able to associate usernames with IP addresses, etc.) and also
because most people simply wouldn't care.
Is there a way that "sanitized" versions (i.e. with user information
removed) of the most recent logs can be made available for download,
as the database dumps are now?
-Bill Clark
Tim Starling wrote (regarding my request for the ability to require
registration via a confirmed email account):
>I started writing a feature which did exactly that. An extra email field
>in the user table, Special:Userlogin modifications to allow email
>confirmation, even IIRC a modification to Article.php and User.php to
>inform users that they can't post because they haven't confirmed. My
>intention was to use this feature to allow Halifax residents to
>contribute to Wikipedia if they have a confirmed email address, hence I
>also made some changes to ipblocks to allow email confirmation to be
>switched on and off depending on IP address. I got maybe 60% of the way
>through it before deciding that it wasn't such an important feature for
>Wikipedia, and I shelved it. I'll see if I can dig up and post what
>I've done.
That's great. As I stated previously, the Center for Media &
Democracy (my employer) has some funds available to pay a programmer
to do this. If you're not seeking payment yourself, perhaps we could
make payment instead in the form of a donation to the Wikimedia
Foundation. If Tim or anyone else here is interested in pursuing this
with us further, please contact me on- or off-list so that we can
discuss terms.
--Sheldon Rampton
On 10/Jul/2004 12:38:16, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
On Saturday 03 July 2004 18:14, Timwi wrote:
> Timwi wrote:
> > Jens Frank wrote:
> >> There are several category names with a / in some languages:
> >
> > It seems that the pipe ("|") character is disallowed in our article
> > titles (and hence, in categories too), but allowed in URLs (I couldn't
> > find the relevant RfC on this for definite confirmation; can someone
> > find it?). How about we use that instead?
>
> Actually, I have a better idea now. How about two slashes (//)? Then we
> can have something like "Category:9/11//People" to have the intersection
> of Category:9/11 and Category:People.
Hello,
short Question: Why you don't use "&&" like in Java? If you do so, you can later use "||" for OR and "!!" for NOT.
With this you can realise "Category:9/11&&People" and more complexe querys like "Category:9/11&&People||buildings" which gives all People or Buildings which have to do with 9/11.
Sincerly
DaB.
P.S:Sorry for my bad english.
On Sat, Jul 10, 2004 at 05:56:30PM +0000, Magnus Manske wrote:
> Update of /cvsroot/wikipedia/phase3/includes
> In directory sc8-pr-cvs1.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv1517/includes
>
> Modified Files:
> Skin.php
> Log Message:
> Now with manual thumbnail option (thumb=xyz.jpg)
>
Hallo Magnus,
da habe ich auch schon mal drueber nachgedacht. Ich schwanke noch
etwas zwischen
[[Image:Big.jpg|thumb=small.jpg|something big]]
und
[[Image:small.jpg|framed|link=Image:Big.jpg|something big]]
Letzteres ist flexibler, erlaubt zum Beispiel auch
[[Bild:Nuernberger_burg.jpg|thumb|link=Galerie Nuernberg|Bilder aus Nuernberg]]
Was denkst Du?
Gruesse,
jens
> Magnus Manske wrote:
>
>
>>Did anyone look at [[Category:Stub]] lately? Well, "There are 10483
>>articles in this category." And they are all on one page.
>>
>>Seems we need to break down large categories into several pages after
>>all. What would be a good number of article links per page? 500? That
>>would make 21 pages and counting, for this special case.
>
>
> A better solution might be to use this as an opportunity to look at
> these articles to see if they really are stubs. If not the stub message
> could be deleted. In the others there is no shortage of work to be
> done. :-)
A third idea is to consider whether Category:stub makes any sense at all.
It's probably a bad idea to conflate the *subject* of an article with
the *article* itself. World War II was a war; [[World War II]] is 57,382
characters long. World War II was not 57,382 characters long; [[World
War II]] is not a war (usually).
A category describes the subject, not the article. The only stuff that
should be in [[Category:stub]] is [[nubbin]] and [[stump]].
It would be useful to have metadata about the article; categories are a
bad way to implement that.
~ESP
Attached is a patch for a feature that creates an info page with
information about a page. Currently, it is the number of people
watching the page, the number of edits, and the number of talk edits,
the number of authors of the article and the number of authors on the
talk page.
It still some further work to:
* Add link to info page from Views
* Make it work with mysql 3
* Change it to a special page?
* Break down the watchers into active and passive watchers (somehow).
--
Josh Cogliati
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> Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 13:18:33 -0700
> From: Brion Vibber <brion(a)pobox.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia mysql dump
> To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
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> On May 4, 2004, at 12:12, Miran Bozicevic wrote:
> > I would like to get hold of a current dump of the
> Wikipedia data for
> > research
> > purposes; Jim Wales said I could just download it
> from somewhere.
> > Could anyone
> > let me know where that would be?
>
> http://download.wikimedia.org/
>
> -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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> Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 00:31:17 +0100
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> Subject: [Wikitech-l] wikiDE-l problems
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> didn't get any
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 00:57:35 +0200
> From: Anthere <anthere9(a)yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Wikitech-l] Re: mediawiki 1,3
> To: wikitech-l(a)wikipedia.org
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> Evan Prodromou a �crit:
> >>>>>>"A" == Anthere <anthere9(a)yahoo.com> writes:
> >>>>>
> >
> > A> Hi, I know it is a lot of work and stress
> for some of you, so I
> > A> hardly dare asking this. Wikipedia will be
> presented (with a
> > A> demo of the website), on tuesday, during a
> meeting in Lyon. It
> > A> will likely be tuesday morning or beginning
> of afternoon,
> > A> France time. Please, do the best you can
> so that at least
> > A> either the french (preferably) or the
> english wikipedia works
> > A> at that time, so that we can show a
> successful website, rather
> > A> than a non accessible one.
> >
> > Have you thought about setting up a local mirror
> to use for the
> > presentation?
> >
> > ~ESP
>
> Euh Evan... this is a good idea for a computer-able
> person :-(
> Which is hardly a description fitting with me. What
> I love with
> Wikipedia, is that I can edit it without needing to
> learn all these
> complicated things about ... well about things I
> really know nothing
> about :-(
>
> but thanks for the suggestion
>
> (keep the site working for me please ;-))
>
> ant
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 12:03:10 -0700
> From: Brion Vibber <brion(a)pobox.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with templates and
> the left
> navigation
> To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
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> Jens Wolfgarten wrote:
> > First of all, I want to change the left
> navigation. Can you please tell me,
> > where I can archive this? Where can I change the
> header and the footer and
> > so on?
>
> There's not a clean way to do this; mess around with
> Skin.php to get
> what you want.
>
> > Moreover I want to use templates. From everything
> I read, I just have to
> > insert a link in the form {{test}}. The wiki
> should automatically display
> > an edit link. I can't make this work. Can you
> please help me? My wiki only
> > displays {{test}} as plain text.
>
> Sounds like you're running 1.2. Templates are in
> 1.3.
>
> -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
>
So, right now, when we have a broken link in a page, it gets rendered
like this:
<a class="new" href="index.php?title=New_page&action=edit">
New page
</a>
The problem here is that we're not differentiating between creating a
new page and editing an existing page. It's uncommon but not impossible
that someone creates [[New page]] while I'm looking at this link, and
when I click it to start a new page, there's text in the textarea.
IWBNI we had a *different* action for creating new pages than for
editing existing pages.
<a class="new" href="index.php?title=New_page&action=new">
New page
</a>
On getting action new, we could do things like:
* Show the page, if it's been created since the person fetched the
referring page.
* Show some set of instructions on how (or why) to start a new
page, and give some other possibilities (I think the [[meta:new
page page]] discusses this).
* Do some cool functionality, like _new_page_templates_ (create
new pages with some existing format already filled in).
But we can't do anything interesting with new pages unless we know
they're new pages. So, I'd like to change action=edit to action=new for
broken links.
Sound OK?
~ESP
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