This has not been fixed. Netscape 7 works but Internet Explorer 5.1 doesn't
from Macintosh 9 OS (and classic OS).
Fred
> From: James Munroe <james(a)jamesmunroe.com>
> Reply-To: wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org
> Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 03:51:49 -0400
> To: <wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org>
> Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Wiki content no longer visible on new template!
>
> Urgent:
>
> All pages with the new template (containing '<body class="ns-4">' without
> the single quotes) have content that is invisible under IE5 running under
> the Mac Classic OS, and possibly other OS'es as well.
>
> This means that, when I look up, for example,
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_X I can see only the template, but
> nothing whatever referring to Malcolm X -- I have to view the HTML source to
> read even a cumbersome version of that. This applies to the Wikipedia:About
> page as well as all pages appearing as ordinary topics under the /wiki/
> subdirectory.
>
> I'm sure it's obvious, but I'll say it anyway: fancy style sheets that
> render pages unreadable on some common browser-OS combinations are a really,
> really bad idea, especially for an open-source, user-editable knowledge
> repository.
>
> Please, let's do something to fix this!!!
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> James Munroe
>
> P.S. Apologies if this should have been addressed elsewhere, but the choices
> of where to send on the mailing lists are, as William Peter Blatty would put
> it, "too numerous to enumerate."
>
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I think it is great that we have new advanced features, and the previous
mediawiki system is great in that perspective
but, it is too complicated.
the wiki system should be simple.
A newbie gets here, he looks at the page, click on edit, makes his
changes, save, and hop ! here it is. Amazing and powerful ability for
all of us.
For templates, the newbie edit the page, then wonders where the little
part he wanted to update is; then perhaps figure out that it is this
little {{blahblah}}; then wonder how he may edit it. When he find out,
he has to remember next time. and if he jumps in another language, he
has to figure out which little text to put before the blahblah. And if
he wants to edit it, he must edit the http link itself.
This is too complicated. I think, that just as in any wiki page, there
should be automatically a little "edit" link, as there is for any
section. Click on this little "template edit" and here it is, you access
the edit page.
Of course, sometimes, right now, editors add the little edit link
themselves, but that is not automatic. I think it might greatly improve
ability for all editors to manage these template thingies to have it
automatic.
Additionnaly, to prevent very very newbies to edit templates without
realising these are common to many articles, we could add a little
warning message for all templates, above the edit form. As well as a
reminder of how to add them (the {{}}).
What do you think ? We should really try to keep participate simple.
Brion wrote:
>That was a configuration error.
Fair enough.
>That's been corrected, but the messages need
>to be either manually or automatically updated.
I've already fixed Meta and Wikibooks. However I was more concerned with
releasing 1.3 to the rest of the world. So if you could commit my changes to
CVS, then that would be great.
-- mav
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Hi,
At de.wikipedia, we are using the MediaWiki namespace for things like
current events.
Has anyone tried to export those parts into a rss/rdf file, i.e.
[[MediaWiki:Hauptseite Aktuelle Ereignisse]] on de or [[MediaWiki:In the
news]] on en?
I think there might be some useful purpose for this file for external
web sites and this could also help wikipedia.
Mathias
--
nach uns der synflood.
There are still way too many Wikipedia-specific references (such as the use of
"article" and "encyclopedia").
Also, this bug report:
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.3_comments_and_bug_reports#Wikib…
brought to my attention that 'MediaWiki' is being used as some kind of stand in
for a generic project name, leading to such absurd message as:
'MediaWiki is powered by MediaWiki, an open source wiki engine.'
The default messages in the below list each have at least one 'MediaWiki' that
needs to be changed to {{SITENAME}}:
*[[MediaWiki:Aboutwikipedia]]
*[[MediaWiki:Anonymous]]
*[[MediaWiki:Booksourcetext]]
*[[MediaWiki:Copyrightpagename]]
*[[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]]
*[[MediaWiki:Defemailsubject]]
*[[MediaWiki:Loginprompt]]
*[[MediaWiki:Loginsuccess]]
*[[MediaWiki:Logouttext]]
*[[MediaWiki:Nocookieslogin]]
*[[MediaWiki:Nocookiesnew]]
*[[MediaWiki:Pagetitle]]
*[[MediaWiki:Passwordremindertitle]]
*[[MediaWiki:Passwordremindertext]]
*[[MediaWiki:Poweredby]]
*[[MediaWiki:Searchingwikipedia]]
*[[MediaWiki:Searchresulttext]]
*[[MediaWiki:Sitestatstext]]
*[[MediaWiki:Sitetitle]]
*[[MediaWiki:Siteuser]]
*[[MediaWiki:Siteusers]]
*[[MediaWiki:Wikititlesuffix]]
*[[MediaWiki:Welcomecreation]]
Could somebody either email me the current Language.php (or whatever is being
used for this now) or provide me a link to it?
I would look for it myself but http://wikipedia.sourceforge.net/ isn't working
right now (installing a wiki there perhaps wasn't the greatest of ideas).
I should be done with the needed mods an hour or two after I get the file, so
this should not stop any development (assuming somebody with CVS access
installs the file soon after I submit it to this list).
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [WikiFR-l] Wikipedia en Brezhoneg / Breton
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 22:38:58 +0200 (CEST)
From: lozach gurvan <tralach152(a)yahoo.fr>
Reply-To: Liste de diffusion de la Wikipédia francophone <wikifr-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
To: wikifr-l(a)Wikipedia.org
Je réitère ma question qui était de savoir si il
serait possible de contribuer à créer wikipedia en
breton, car ca me tien vraiment à coeur. Je ne sais
pas comment m'y prendre pour lancer le processus, ce
serait sympat si je pouvais avoir de l'aide pour le
faire concrètement. Je crois au multilinguisme dans
wikpedia et j'aimerais qu'il s'étende aussi au breton.
Mersi
>Hello Daniel,
>
>You can get the lastest language.php at:
>http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/phase3/languages/
>
>click on the version number to get the full file content (1.225 for en:
>actually).
>
>Please note that web based cvs is not refreshed as soon as a developer
>make a modification, but it should give you a good base.
>
>:)
Thanks. My last email has not posted yet, so I assume including the .php file
as an attachment caused a filter to do its thing. Here is a link to the
complete text:
http://meta.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User:Daniel_Mayer/sandbox&acti…
Somebody already changed all the inappropriate uses of 'MediaWiki' so I just
went ahead and did the same thing for inappropriate uses of 'article', changing
it to 'page' (this was the most often fix since the functions described work
the same no matter what namespace the page is in) or 'content page' (in the few
cases where a distinction between a main namespace page and a non-main
namespace page is needed). Alternatively, 'content page' could be changed to
'main namespace', but that term seems a bit too techy for me. What would really
help is setting up a {{mainnamespacename}} variable so that each project can
name its own content page (entry, article, module, whatever) and have that be
consistent throughout the wiki.
I also caught a couple of uses of 'encyclopedia' that I nixed (either deleting
it or replacing it with 'project' as appropriate).
Could somebody with CVS access commit this?
-- Daniel Mayer
PS And yes, I agree to license these edits under the GNU GPL.
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>Hello Daniel,
>
>You can get the lastest language.php at:
>http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/phase3/languages/
>
>click on the version number to get the full file content (1.225 for en:
>actually).
>
>Please note that web based cvs is not refreshed as soon as a developer
>make a modification, but it should give you a good base.
>
>:)
Thanks. Attached is the new language.php. If the email system does not allow
that, then the complete text is here:
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Daniel_Mayer/sandbox
Somebody already changed all the inappropriate uses of 'MediaWiki' so I just
went ahead and did the same thing for inappropriate uses of 'article', changing
it to 'page' (this was the most often fix since the functions described work
the same no matter what namespace the page is in) or 'content page' (in the few
cases where a distinction between a main namespace page and a non-main
namespace page is needed). Alternatively, 'content page' could be changed to
'main namespace', but that term seems a bit too techy for me. What would really
help is setting up a {{mainnamespacename}} variable so that each project can
name its own content page (entry, article, module, whatever) and have that be
consistent throughout the wiki.
I also caught a couple of uses of 'encyclopedia' that I nixed (either deleting
it or replacing it with 'project' as appropriate).
Could somebody with CVS access commit this?
-- Daniel Mayer
PS And yes, I agree to license these edits under the GNU GPL.
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