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Tópicos de Hoje:
1. Bem cavalgar: WIP into pt.source (Alex Brollo)
2. Re: Bem cavalgar: WIP into pt.source (GoEthe.wiki)
3. Re: Bem cavalgar: WIP into pt.source (Alex Brollo)
4. Re: Bem cavalgar: WIP into pt.source (GoEthe.wiki)
5. Re: Bem cavalgar: WIP into pt.source (Alex Brollo)
6. Abuso de editor (Virgilio A. P. Machado)
7. Re: Abuso de editor
(Béria Lima)
8. Coragem, Bondade e Amor à Wikipédia (Virgilio A. P. Machado)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 16:25:09 +0100
From: Alex Brollo <
alex.brollo@gmail.com>
Subject: [WikiPT] Bem cavalgar: WIP into pt.source
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Hi all, I'm an Italian user of wikisource, unluckily I can't speak
portuguese... nevertheless I'm
very boldly publishing into pt.source an
ancient, XV Century book.
It's probably the most ancient equitation book after Xenophons, written by
King Dom Duarte. I posted a call for some help into the "esplanada" of
pt.source, but I didn't got so far a reply. So I'm looking here, into a
larger community, a willing user interested both into *horsemanship* and *into
ancient portuguese language & history*, just to have some general suggestion
and some brief comment about my difficult work.
If you like, take a look here:
http://pt.wikisource.org/wiki/Galeria:Bem_cavalgar.djvuYou'll find two different styles of transcription, the first one used into
pages from 7 to 38, the second one (my style) into pages from 39 to 44.
I'll use your suggestions for the second book of Dom Duarte too, "O leal
consilheiro", which is ready
and waiting into Commons.
Thanks!
--
Alex
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 16:50:48 +0100
From: "GoEthe.wiki" <
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Subject: Re: [WikiPT] Bem cavalgar: WIP into pt.source
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Hi Alex.
That is very impressive work, indeed. I am afraid that I not familiar with
editing in Wikisource, and don't know if its community is large, but if you
like you can post an announcement on the pt-Wikipedia Esplanada.
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Esplanada/geral and attract more
editors (the mailing list is not very active). I can provide a translation
into portuguese there.
What kind of suggestions/comments are you looking for? I notice that your
OCR text has some difficulties with the ancient portuguese diacritics, but I
have no idea how to fix that.
Best of luck!
2010/2/1 Alex Brollo <
alex.brollo@gmail.com>
> Hi all, I'm an Italian user of wikisource, unluckily I can't speak
> portuguese... nevertheless I'm very boldly publishing into pt.source an
> ancient, XV Century book.
>
> It's probably the most ancient equitation book after Xenophons, written by
> King Dom Duarte. I posted a call for some help into the "esplanada" of
> pt.source, but I didn't got so far a reply. So I'm looking here, into a
> larger community, a willing user interested both into *horsemanship* and *into
> ancient portuguese language & history*, just to have some general
> suggestion and some brief comment about my difficult work.
>
> If you like, take a look here:
>
http://pt.wikisource.org/wiki/Galeria:Bem_cavalgar.djvu>
> You'll find two different styles of transcription, the first one used into
> pages from 7 to 38, the second one (my style) into pages from 39 to 44.
>
> I'll use your suggestions for the second book of Dom Duarte too, "O leal
> consilheiro", which is ready and waiting into Commons.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Alex
>
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 17:09:07 +0100
From: Alex Brollo <
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Subject: Re: [WikiPT] Bem cavalgar: WIP into pt.source
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2010/2/1 GoEthe.wiki
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> Hi Alex.
> What kind of suggestions/comments are you looking for? I notice that your
> OCR text has some difficulties with the ancient portuguese diacritics, but I
> have no idea how to fix that.
>
> Best of luck!
>
> Thanks for suggestion. I just rendered an ancient Italian work, and I found
the same "diacritics" that really are "tituli", t.i. Middle Age common
abbreviations. But... are they *all* tituli or are some of them real
diacritics?
My shortcut has been, to consider all "tituli", implying that - as normally
works in paleography - they can be solved converting them into a n or a m
following the vocal with them; but... how many mistake I did? No matter, I
know that there's no one wiki user that can do the "perfect work", someone
will fix my mistakes... I
only hope that they are not too many. :-(
Well, I'll post the question into pt.wikipedia, as you suggested; thanks
again.
Alex
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 17:57:10 +0100
From: "GoEthe.wiki" <
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Subject: Re: [WikiPT] Bem cavalgar: WIP into pt.source
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Well, I believe they are true diacritics, but I am no expert on ancient
portuguese. You might find some information on:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reforms_of_Portuguese_orthography although it
seems to be more centered at the reforms during the 20th century.
2010/2/1 Alex Brollo <
alex.brollo@gmail.com>
>
>
> 2010/2/1 GoEthe.wiki <
goethe.wiki@gmail.com>
>
>> Hi
Alex.
>>
>> What kind of suggestions/comments are you looking for? I notice that your
>> OCR text has some difficulties with the ancient portuguese diacritics, but I
>> have no idea how to fix that.
>>
>> Best of luck!
>>
>> Thanks for suggestion. I just rendered an ancient Italian work, and I
> found the same "diacritics" that really are "tituli", t.i. Middle Age common
> abbreviations. But... are they *all* tituli or are some of them real
> diacritics?
>
> My shortcut has been, to consider all "tituli", implying that - as normally
> works in paleography - they can be solved converting them into a n or a m
> following the vocal with them; but... how many mistake I did? No matter, I
> know that there's no one wiki user that can do the "perfect work", someone
> will fix my mistakes... I only hope that they are not too many.
:-(
>
> Well, I'll post the question into pt.wikipedia, as you suggested; thanks
> again.
>
> Alex
>
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 23:55:34 +0100
From: Alex Brollo <
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Subject: Re: [WikiPT] Bem cavalgar: WIP into pt.source
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2010/2/1 GoEthe.wiki <
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> Hi Alex.
>
> That is very impressive work, indeed. I am afraid that I not familiar with
> editing in Wikisource, and don't know if its community is large, but if you
> like you can post an announcement on the pt-Wikipedia
Esplanada.
>
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Esplanada/geral and attract more
> editors (the mailing list is not very active). I can provide a translation
> into portuguese there.
>
> Best of luck!
>
Just to tell you that your suggestion turned out excellent: I got an
interesting, and encoiraging, reply in a few hours! Thanks again!
Alex
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:43:05 +0000
From: "Virgilio A. P. Machado" <
vam@fct.unl.pt>
Subject: [WikiPT] Abuso de editor
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Que razões podem levar um editor, que se
autonomeou para administrador e cuja votação
ainda está a decorrer, a responder a «Pedidos a
Administradores/Outros pedidos», como se já fosse
administrador, como aconteceu, no dia 25 de Março de 2010?
Atenciosamente,
Virgílio A. P. Machado (Vapmachado)
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010
21:03:50 +0000
From: Béria Lima <
berialima@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WikiPT] Abuso de editor
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Provavelmente o desejo de ajudar um usuário a sanar uma dúvida. Se é uma
questão sobre a qual ele pode e tem conhecimento para opinar, não vejo
porque não o possa fazer.
Alguma outra questão?
_____
Béria Lima (Beh)
No dia 25 de Março de 2010 19:43, Virgilio A. P. Machado
<
vam@fct.unl.pt>escreveu:
> Que razões podem levar um editor, que se
> autonomeou para administrador e cuja votação
> ainda está a decorrer, a responder a «Pedidos a
> Administradores/Outros pedidos», como se já fosse
> administrador, como aconteceu, no dia 25 de Março de 2010?
>
> Atenciosamente,
>
> Virgílio A. P. Machado (Vapmachado)
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:53:01 +0000
From: "Virgilio A. P. Machado" <
vam@fct.unl.pt>
Subject: [WikiPT] Coragem, Bondade e Amor à Wikipédia
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Ameaças proferidas contra mim, quando estou
impedido de me defender, provavelmente são actos de grande coragem.
Edições de páginas de usuários das minhas
relações, por administrador, provavelmente são actos de grande bondade.
Introdução de erros em artigos do domínio
principal, cuja edição supervisionei, por
administrador, provavelmente são actos de grande amor à Wikipédia.
Mais alguém quer perguntar mais alguma coisa?
Atenciosamente,
Virgílio A. P. Machado
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