I would like to see each wikipedia be able to view what's in the Wiki-Commons from within their own wiki, but in their own language, and when they upload a picture, they upload to the commons, not the wiki, thereby saving server space. So, if I log into the German wiki, I can edit a description of the picture, and from English, Dutch, etc., I can do the same thing, and it all describes the same picture, not multiple copies of the same picture. James -----Original Message----- From: wikipedia-l-bounces(a)Wikimedia.org [mailto:wikipedia-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Stan Shebs Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 5:32 AM To: wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Galleries on Wikipedia vs. galleries on WikimediaCommons Erik Moeller wrote: I think it's worth suggesting that people take a look, but the commons is not really ready for primetime; while there's been a lot of energetic image dumping, not so much effort has gone into organization or cross-reference support. My experience so far has been to be confronted with piles of random uploads of monster pictures, sort of like some horrible museum where if you express interest in something, the docent grabs you and shoves you up against the painting, and you have to walk back and forth with your nose to the wall in order to view it. :-) It also seems that there is not a consensus as to whether the commons is a bare repository for editors to draw upon, versus something that you want to send readers to. It would be unfortunate to move a gallery there and then have somebody delete it because "that's not what the commons is for." Stan _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l

A single login would be quite nice. My question is, with the same name being occupied on many different wikipedias, how would that be handled? Your "Eloquence@enwikipedia" suggestion, with the screen showing only "Eloquence" would be nice. I agree to wait on a true solution rather than a hack. James -----Original Message----- From: wikipedia-l-bounces(a)Wikimedia.org [mailto:wikipedia-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Erik Moeller Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:40 PM To: wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Galleries on Wikipedia vs. galleries onWikimediaCommons James- when same If you have a Commons image like [[Image:Magnolia blossom.jpg]] and you use it on a Wikipedia, e.g.: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Magnolia_blossom.jpg then you can edit the image description page and add a German text. The image still comes from the commons - no disk space wasted. However, it is not currently possible to upload files from any other Wikimedia project directly to the Commons. That's because to do so, the Commons would have to know who you are - and every wiki has its own account database. We could use something like "Eloquence@enwikipedia" as the identity, or offer an option to store the Commons password in the preferences, but I'd rather wait until we have true single login instead of using a temporary hack. Regards, Erik _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l

Stan- First, let me emphatically encourage everyone to upload the highest resolution version of any image you have which still includes useful information. It is of paramount importance for future print editions to have high resolution versions of our most important images. Scaling existing images down for display reasons is bad, bad, bad. The CVS HEAD version of MediaWiki automatically scales down any super- sized image on the Image: description page and provides a link to the full-size version. Until this goes live, the huge image display on Image: pages has to be considered a temporary inconvenience. As for organization, the development version also contains a feature that shows the thumbnails of images on Category: pages. That makes it quite easy to create image galleries. In the future, I would also like it to be possible to dynamically include captions from the image description pages, so that when no caption is provided, and the image description page contains one, it is used. Well, that's why we should make a decision on this matter now. I'll go with my proposed policy for now. In any case, useful information is unlikely to be deleted outright - that's what Transwiki is for. Regards, Erik