Right, if I wrote an article on en: that said "a popular singer", it
would be expanded? Am I supposed to believe that? If I made articles
like that on en.wikipedia, I'd probably be asked to stop, and perhaps
even banned.
An article containing two words is by no measure a stub, unless it is
a language where those two words translate into an English sentence.
I would hardly call my actions "spamming this list with defensive
flames". I believe I have the right to defend myself against
accusations, so even if they are "defensive flames" I believe I am
entitled to that. I have sent perhaps 10 "defensive flames" as you
call them over the course of 3 days. That may be a little bit much,
but given what is going on, I think it should be expected from
anybody.
In addition, the only other minority language Wikipedia I've been
accused of causing problems at is ks.wikipedia. Toki Pona is not a
minority language in the usual meaning of the word.
If you check my edits on all minority language Wikipedias, I guarantee
you there is nothing against policy. I also guarantee you that any
edits made before this moment by "node_ue" on any Wikipedia are mine.
In fact, the majority of these edits are reversions of vandalism,
notes on talkpages, uploads of logos, or other minor helpful edits.
Danny cannot reasonably claim to speak for the userbase of the Yddish
Wikipedia, given that the one user other than him and I has worked out
all outstanding issues on the Yiddish Wikipedia.
As noted before, if I continued to revert the pages to my
speedy-template versions, that could be considered on all accounts
"bad", however when I realised such edits - of which I made 4, I
repeat 4, that's f o u r four - were upsetting Danny, I didn't make
any more. In fact, I didn't make any more before he got upset, either,
even though I had plenty of time. Danny is the only one whining about
this.
Four. That's one, two, three four pages, totaling 19 words. If you
subtract "a", "is", and "of" (in Yiddish of course), that is
19 words.
To deal with these pages separately, that would be 5 words on two
pages (America and Britney Spears), 3 subtracting "a"s.
The other two pages total 14 words, 6 subtracting "a", "is", and
"of".
These two pages said exclusively "_____ is a brother of ___" and
linked to one another.
It's not as if I went on some massive spree of replacing pages with
{{delete}} notices, as a matter of fact yi.wikipedia doesn't yet even
have enough pages for a "spree".
Nor did I ignore people when they confronted me. In fact, Jamesday
confronted me and we came to an understanding that not only had I
already stopped, I wasn't planning on doing it anymore. Danny didn't
even bother to confront me.
And all of this hubbub took place nearly 24 hours after these edits,
about 7 hours after they were reverted.
Claims against me are getting to such a level where they are so
rediculous I would laugh if they were made against somebody else. 4
pages which would have been speedied on en.wikipedia or any other
Wikipedia, not engaging in a revert war, and all the action taking
place well after the actual "problem"? That's crazy.
Mark
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 22:58:17 +1000, Craig Franklin <craig(a)halo-17.net> wrote:
Scríobh Mark Williamson:
If the Britney Spears article said
"×'ר×TÖ´×~× ×TÖ´ ספּ×Tִרס ×T×-
×Ö·
[[פּ×ָפּ×.×oערע
×-×T×'ער×T×Y|פּ×ָפּ×.×oערע
×-×T×'ער]]" ("Britney
Spears is a
[[popular singer]]") with an actual article
of at least stub quality
at the "Popular Singer" page, it could reasonably be considered a
substub, but even if there was no article at "Popular Singer" I
probably wouldn'tve touched it, had it been an actual sentence.
It's funny Mark, I don't seem to remember you being elevated to such a
position where you could make authoritative judgements on what is a stub, a
substub, or whatever. Whatever would have been the problem with just
expanding the sub-sub-stub or whatever you believed it was to a good
article? You know, like we do on other, non-minority Wikipedias. Yet
again, both in your original infraction and your spamming of this list with
hostile defensive flames, you've totally overstepped the bounds of what is
commonly held to be acceptable behaviour here.
On another note, when the first post to this list informing of a problem on
a minority-language Wikipedia came up, was I the only one who thought
"Mark!", before I even opened it to have a read?
Regards,
- Craig Franklin
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