Hello everybody,
Remember, you decided to leave the Moldovan wikipedia freezed, but not completely deleted. Now, its unique contributor [[:en:User:Node_ue]], is back (probably on school holiday), with his anti-Romanian edits. I cite from [[:mo:Wikipedia_talk:Administrator]]:
<i> Please don't write in Romanian here, write Moldovan. Every time you write Romanian on the Moldovan wikipedia, god kills a kitten. </i>
No to mention that he initiated a vote to become again sysop, then tried to falsify the results (because they were not favourable). The current version of the page [[:mo:Wikipedia:Administrator]] is that rigged by Node_ue, but take a look at the history on the vote page [http://mo.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator&oldid=115…], which shows the true result of the vote according to the original rules set by Node_ue.
After this, he managed to invite the entire Russian wikipedia to take position on a language they know nothing about here: [[:meta:Proposals for closing projects]]. Take a look at his post here [[:ru:ÐикипедиÑ:ФоÑÑм/ÐовоÑÑи#Moldovan]], and notice the blatant lie concerning the cyrillic script (whereas the problem is in fact the absence of Moldovan editors).
In the meantime, Node_ue is copying articles from ro.wiki to mo.wiki and pretends they are in a different language.
It must be noted that he is the only one on the entire wikipedia (all wikipedias took together) to pretend speaking a "Moldovan language" different from the Romanian one. Just take a look at [[:en:Category:User mo]], [[:mo:Category:User mo]], [[:ro:Category:User mo]], [[:ru:Category:User mo]].
Moreover he himself places himself at level mo-2. I can assure you this guy isn't able to write correct text in Moldovan. Any native Moldovan can tell you the same (in fact, this is why he keeps copying articles from ro.wiki).
While no native Moldovan editor exists, the Moldovan wikipedia will continue to be a political statement that exacerbates nationalisms from Romania, Russia, and Moldova itself, and a playground for clever and stupid trolls.
It should be closed until a native Moldovan editor requires its re-opening and assumes admin rights.
This argument has already been put forward here [[:meta:Proposals for closing projects#What decision makers need to know]].
Yours sincerely,
[[:en:User:Dpotop]], [[:ro:User:Dpotop]]
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In my view this is discussion cannot be viewed as separate from the past ones on the topic, but rather the continuation (and hopefully the culmination) of the issue. If such a resolution has already been made, then what is the purpose of continuing this discussion and wasting even more time. The only thing lacking is enforcement, and why souldn't that be carried out in accordance with the general conclusion of the debate, whether in the past or the present.
I understand how some users might feel frustrated with the continuation of the discussion and the war of words, however by not acting the conflict will not end, and I believe you are actually giving tacit approval to the project in its current state. I am sorry if others spent a great deal of time looking at the dispute and now may feel irritated, but others also were involved in this debate, to an even higher degree, and simply stating that all this work was in waste as you do not intend to act in any way seems a grave neglect of your duties and even a lack of respect for those who have invested their time to try to find a solution to the problem and find the best way to resolve it.
Mark Williamson <node.ue(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Is this relevant to the *current* discussion?
Everybody already knew about that. It was clear that that decision was made.
However, it was never enforced, and since then, you have taken against
yourselves by turning the heat up where it was absolutely not
necessary and making everyone stop caring.
Mark
On 03/07/06, Jacky PB wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to apologize to all of you for my
> interventions here. I just missed an e-mail of anthere
> more than 6 months old.
>
>
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2006-March/043897.html
>
> My only excuse is that it happened on another thread
> than the one I followed.
>
> Yours,
> :en:Dpotop, :ro:Dpotop
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I have (finally) updated a page I made 1.5 years ago, containing for
many languages the pages on the English Wikipedia that have many
interwikis, but none to that specific language. The list can be found
at [[meta:Common Interwiki links]]. I have shown those languages for
which the number 100 in that list had less than 50 interwiki links.
Most Interwiki links in total had the page [[India]], a wopping 150.
Also more than than 100 were in: [[True Jesus Church]] (132),
[[Wikipedia]] (129), [[Kurów]] (114), [[United States]] (113),
[[Europe]] (112), [[Bible]] (109), [[Lithuania]] (108), [[Germany]]
(107), [[Russia]] (106), [[Christianity]] (104), [[English language]]
(104), [[France]] (103), [[Geography]] (103) and [[Biology]] (101).
Here the language shown on the page, with for each language a few
examples out of the highest pages on the list (that is, the pages with
most interwiki links without one to that language):
ar: Haiti, Film and Vladimir Putin
bg: German, Iran and Mahatma Gandhi
ca: Ankara, Lion and James Joyce
cs: Hindi, Welsh and Boston Massachusetts
da: Japanese, Law and Virus
de: Avian flu, Mohs scale and Yoghurt
eo: Hard disk, Roman Catholic Church and the Pythagorean theorem
es: North Africa, Abacus and Cooking
et: Architecture, Antarctica and Spanish
eu: Jesus, Japan and Computer
fi: Tourism, Education and Mythology
fr: Greek, Hobby and the Four color theorem
gl: Jesus, Buddhism and Gold
he: 1641, Villeneuve d'Ascq and Korean
hr: Computer, Georgia (country) and Beijing
hu: Algeria, Vladimir Putin and the days of the week
id: Medicine, Buddhism and Dance
it: Jakarta, Leif Ericson and Republic
ja: 1685, Aragonese and Bihar
ko: Dance, Marco Polo and Law
lt: Katowice, China and Qur'an
nl: Domestic pig, Sugar and Plasma
nn: Biology, Mathematics and Plato
no: Sea, Engineering and Sahara
pl: B, Earth's atmosphere and Metaphysics
pt: GNU, Atomic mass and Biotechnology
ro: Bird, Politics and AIDS
ru: Mahatma Gandhi, National anthem and Earth science
simple: Jordan, Che Guevara and Marie Curie
sk: Iceland, Moscow and Christmas
sl: Geology, Angela Merkel and Los Angeles
sr: Solar system, Operating system and Beijing
sv: United Arab Emirates, Education and Alcohol
th: Chess, Agriculture and many African countries
tr: Thailand, Pope and Animal
uk: Algeria, George W. Bush and Karl Marx
zh: Money, Antonio Vivaldi and Aikido
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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:06:22 -0700
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Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
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>* Many people won't be uploading images if it requires email registration
>
>
Please please please let it be so! After having to mark several
thousand bad uploads for deletion, and realizing it was just a
tiny percentage of the total problem, I'd agree to anything that
would stop the deluge of sh!t.
I think it's hard for people who haven't worked on image cleanup
to realize how much grunt work is created by the hundreds and
sometimes thousands of bad uploads that accumulate each and every day.
Stan
Agreed. Tried it out again, for the first time in months, and it's amazing how many junk images are uploaded.
Nick/Zanimum
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One of the big problems with checking and tagging images is that we
often cannot contact the uploaders -- they register an account, maybe
only to upload, and then they never log in again, never check their
talk page, didn't provide an email address, and you have no way to
contact them.
A lot of images are deleted because we simply have no way to contact
the uploader who didn't provide a source or a license to ask them what
the correct information is.
I think it would be a big step forward to require a confirmed email
address in order to upload images. It's a not a large hurdle for
contributors, no minimum time or edit count -- just that we must be
able to contact you, and then if we cannot, we're sure it's not just
because you haven't been checking your talk page.
This would also make it far easier for reusers of our media to contact
the contributors to confirm! Wikimedia gets many requests to reprint
photos and often we have to say that we simply do not know how to get
in touch with the copyright holder -- someone who last edited a year
ago is not likely to check a talk page.
I hear it said that this would be an easy feature to implement.
Suggestions/thoughts/objections?
-Kat
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