I don't know. Personally I think YouTube would be a better choice, as people have actually heard of YouTube. Then the promo must be posted on digg, Wikizine; whore it out as much as possible. On 4/10/07, Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

On 11/04/07, James Hare <messedrocker(a)gmail.com> wrote: YouTube would be a little better but not much. It is still proprietory and advert-laden - I sometimes have problems playing YouTube videos on my Linux machine. If we are truly committed to creating free content we need to distribute it in a free manner in formats and media that are not unfree. Commons would be the best way to go. -- Oldak Quill (oldakquill(a)gmail.com)

On 11/04/07, James Hare <messedrocker(a)gmail.com> wrote: I assume not. The BBC, for example, has an account and uploads pretty lengthy clips to YouTube. Perhaps Wikimedia should do the same thing? Being copyleft, our content can be reused quite freely (including being posted on YouTube). I simply contest using YouTube/Microsoft Live or any other such site which uses proprietory software as the *primary* distributor of our content. -- Oldak Quill (oldakquill(a)gmail.com)

Sounds a lot like the CC license in a sense. So...Opinions on You Tube? Even if just the 20 second promotion video. Jason Oldak Quill <oldakquill(a)gmail.com> wrote: On 11/04/07, Oldak Quill wrote: Found the following at http://www.youtube.com/t/terms: "For clarity, you retain all of your ownership rights in your User Submissions. However, by submitting the User Submissions to YouTube, you hereby grant YouTube a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicenseable and transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, and perform the User Submissions in connection with the YouTube Website and YouTube's (and its successor's) business, including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the YouTube Website (and derivative works thereof) in any media formats and through any media channels. You also hereby grant each user of the YouTube Website a non-exclusive license to access your User Submissions through the Website, and to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display and perform such User Submissions as permitted through the functionality of the Website and under these Terms of Service. The foregoing license granted by you terminates once you remove or delete a User Submission from the YouTube Website." -- Oldak Quill (oldakquill(a)gmail.com) _______________________________________________ Wikinews-l mailing list Wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.

On 4/11/07, Kat Walsh <mindspillage(a)gmail.com> wrote: Not formally, but there are lots of utilities and web sites that assist in this. -Andrew (User:Fuzheado)

Then we can just link to a downloadable copy of the video. On 4/10/07, Kat Walsh <mindspillage(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/11/07, Oldak Quill <oldakquill(a)gmail.com> wrote: Yes, the copyright terms do not change, you simply give YouTube a license to host and distribute your video, which is revocable if you delete the video from YouTube. For "CC" style content that Wikinews and Wikimedia projects generate, this should be completely compatible. Details below. It's important to note it's not either/or with YouTube. It could be that Commons is the place to seed the video, but that it spreads to other locations like YouTube, Ourmedia, Revver or other places for user convenience. -Andrew (User:Fuzheado) Excerpt from YouTube terms of service: For clarity, you retain all of your ownership rights in your User Submissions. However, by submitting the User Submissions to YouTube, you hereby grant YouTube a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicenseable and transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, and perform the User Submissions in connection with the YouTube Website and YouTube's (and its successor's) business, including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the YouTube Website (and derivative works thereof) in any media formats and through any media channels. You also hereby grant each user of the YouTube Website a non-exclusive license to access your User Submissions through the Website, and to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display and perform such User Submissions as permitted through the functionality of the Website and under these Terms of Service. The foregoing license granted by you terminates once you remove or delete a User Submission from the YouTube Website.

On 11/04/07, jason safoutin <cute24minbflo(a)yahoo.com> wrote: What does that have to do with whether we redistribute our content on YouTube or not? -- Oldak Quill (oldakquill(a)gmail.com)

On 4/10/07, Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: Same (well, Firefox on Fedora). Why not put this in a free format and put it on Commons? -Kat -- Wikimedia needs you: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Fundraising * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mindspillage | (G)AIM:Mindspillage mindspillage or mind|wandering on irc.freenode.net | email for phone