The part of the Geograph that we've imported so far is indeed overwhelmingly low res - they lifted their file size a little before the large batch imports were done, but some high res images were in those batches and subsequent smaller scale imports from the Geograph have included some very high res images. I suspect that a large proportion of the million plus Geograph images that we've yet to import will be fairly high resolution.

The categorisation needed backlog of Geograph images is now down to circa 700,000 and will have dipped quite a bit further by September when the next WLM runs. However apart from churches, piers, war memorials, hill forts and some castles the bulk of the geograph categorisation has been to village or town level - so we are probably in much the same state that we were in last year. Any photogenic listed building that can be photographed from the road and is within a congenial drive of a decent real ale pub will have been photographed by geographers. Especially if it is thatched or has Llamas in the next field ( http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Llamas_and_alpacas_in_the_United_Kingdom demonstrates that according to frequency on Commons both species are clearly of UK origin).

As for the idea that Geographers are hardy folk who only take exterior shots and never enter buildings; Well a search on Commons for stained glass Norfolk gets 1,124 hits whilst a search for stained glass gets only 40,114, so one English county accounts for 3% of our global coverage of stained glass.....

In our recent photo-adding session http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WereSpielChequers/image_adding we got some newbies and not so newbies to add images to articles on Wikipedia and we found that most articles which lack an image but have a UK geocode can already be illustrated from Commons. The main exception being nature reserves - (my theory being they don't allow cars or serve real ale). Of course there may be lots of notable buildings that are sufficiently unfashionable not to have either articles or images despite having a Listed status.

So I'm not convinced that WLM would give us images for articles that already exist but lack images, though it could give us new photographers, show that we are taking part in a global wiki event, and help kickstart articles on important but uncommercial buildings. All that in my view makes it worthwhile to do, but with the precaution that I proposed last year - we need to advise people that we may already have images, possibly uncategorised ones of the monument in question, and if they want to be the first to load an image of a particular building they first need to check whether we already have it.

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On 16 January 2013 16:55, HJ Mitchell <hjmitchell@ymail.com> wrote:
Huge dents have been made in the Geograph backlog since last year, thanks mainly to changes in HotCat and Cat-a-lot on Commons and the dedication of WereSpielChequers and others. Geograph is fantastic, but it has surprising gaps and the images are all low-res, so there's definitely room for Geogrpah and WLM to peacefully co-exist.   
 
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Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WikiConference 2013 Speakers

As I recall, the objections were in part that we have most of this
material already on Commons (via Geograph), but badly organised. I
don't know if that's changed, or if we've got a better idea of what's
out there...

- Andrew.

On 16 January 2013 16:45, HJ Mitchell <hjmitchell@ymail.com> wrote:
> Well we have a list of Grade I listed buildings in every county. I'm sure it
> would be easy enough to have a bot do the same for Grade II* and Scheduled
> Ancient Monuments, and that gives us a ready-made target list. How much more
> organisation is needed, beyond creating the necessary project pages on the
> relevant wikis and getting the word out?
>
> Harry Mitchell
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> ________________________________
> From: Thomas Morton <morton.thomas@googlemail.com>
> To: UK Wikimedia mailing list <wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2013, 16:31
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WikiConference 2013 Speakers
>
> Excellent suggestions, thanks, I will look into it.
>
> A WLM speaker would be great... last year it was mentioned, but only as a
> plea for someone to step forward and organise the UK effort.
>
> I looked into what it would take but it seems a larger job than I'd have
> time for given my other committements - is there noone from the GLAM side of
> things who can take it on??
>
> Tom
>
>
> On 15 January 2013 21:11, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
>
> If the UK would be participating in Wiki Loves Monuments this year, would
> that be an angle to search a keynote? (national or European) I doubt someone
> from the international team would qualify as a ''keynote'' (maybe regular
> though?) but someone from Heritage England or even one of the European
> umbrella organizations (Europa Nostra, Europeana) could do something?
>
> Just a thought,
>
> Lodewijk
>
>
> 2013/1/15 Jon Davies <jon.davies@wikimedia.org.uk>
>
> AGM 8th of June with more activities on the 9th.
>
> On 15 January 2013 11:21, Joe Filceolaire <filceolaire@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> date?
> On Jan 15, 2013 11:19 AM, "Thomas Morton" <morton.thomas@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Morning Everyone,
>
> As you might know, the 2013 conference will be in Lincoln, organised by the
> Conference Committee with support from the office.
>
> With the venue chosen, we now need to figure out an exciting programme. A
> lot of this is in the planning stage and we will be releasing more
> information later, however one of the first thing we need to do is figure
> out some keynote speakers.
>
> Later in the year we will be calling for papers and speakers from within the
> community, right now we are focusing on finding one or two "big names" who
> have something relevant to say.
>
> As this is your concert we need to know who you want to hear from!
>
> It could be anyone; from celerities, to politicians, to activists. We're
> looking for intriguing suggestions, people with a unique perspective.
>
> Some initial suggestions have been made, please please do suggest further
> ideas here on the mailing list, by emailing myself or posting on this page:
> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_UK_2013/Speakers
>
> Regards,
> Tom
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