I basically agree with Katherine, Gordo I’m not sure what benefits you think members should get?  Why are you a member? 

I like the way the page is a sort of a positioning statement regarding what it means for you to – a little description of why people might choose  to be a member v. a volunteer v. some other sort of supporter.  That doesn’t have to be about benefits so much as the level and type of support people want to show, and the kinds of activity they might engage in.  Having said that, I think the micro-grants thing is a good benefit which as I understand is only open to members (is that also true of claiming costs?). 

Cheers

Simon

 

From: wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Bavage
Sent: 28 June 2013 08:12
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership recruitment

 

The page I linked to in my opening email - http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Membership/Promoting - discusses this exactly and suggests how we could describe the benefit of membership to potential members.

 

So, to return to Stevie's point, when Gordo, says:

 

"This issue is not about privacy or openness. It is about what a member gets that others do not.  At the moment, voting at the AGM comes to mind, paying dues and not much else." (my emphasis) the question that historically we haven't answered is: should members get privileges? 

 

How does that square with the fact other wikimedia chapter memberships don't really seem to get specific benefits and privileges? Would it be consistent with what the movement and our chapter in it are trying to achieve? 

 

I think the answer is 'probably not'. It's not up to me to decide, but I don't think we can afford to keep getting stuck/vague on this point. It will harm recruitment.  

 

I think the descriptions of what people can gain through joining that I laid out on the page sum up why new and established editors would benefit from becoming members without offering them discounts, private emails, special extras etc. 

 

I am up for the idea of a lapel pin though - it might be nice for people to have this to demonstrate their support. 

 


Katherine Bavage 

Fundraising Manager 

Wikimedia UK

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On 28 June 2013 15:37, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly@pobox.com> wrote:

On 28/06/13 15:31, Stevie Benton wrote:


Thanks for your email. The membership email is made openly available in accordance with our values. To ask a genuine question, do you think members in general would prefer it to be private and would you prefer it to be private?

 

This issue is not about privacy or openness. It is about what a member gets that others do not. At the moment, voting at the AGM comes to mind, paying dues and not much else.

Oh, and that warm fuzzy feeling and something to tell the grandchildren about....



Gordo


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