I'm normally a busy person, but if you give me raw figures, like costs of rooms and estimates, I think I can cook some books up for ya. At the very least, I can advise the unfortunate soul left with the task (5 years of accounting, 2.5 of tax forms). 

Geoff


From: Nicholas Moreau <nicholasmoreau@gmail.com>
To: Wikimedia Canada planning list <wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:20:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] Wikimania Montreal 2011?

If we go with a Toronto bid, lets try and make it as fresh as possible. The 2009 bid was basically just the 2006 one, written up better, with some endorsements. I'm not saying any of the previous bid was bad, just that we shouldn't just copy-paste and reword.

Key things:

-  How many of us have been to a Wikimania? Other bid teams have members with practical experience in this area, and I think that helps. Wikimania is just a schedule, some interesting episodes of Wikipedia Weekly, and some random photos to me, since I've never made it to one. The insight that someone could deliver to our bid, had they attended a prior year's event, would be invaluable.

-  I agree manpower and helpers is essential... we could have a brilliant facility, schedule, budget, but if it only looks good on paper... [er... screen I guess.]

-  Budget details: we need someone that can crunch numbers this time, for either bid. I seem to remember in 2008 or 2009 being asked for a detailed budget. At least one other team had a tour-de-force, namely the eventual winner, Buenos Aires. Their gaant chart, viewable on their bid page, was only a fraction of the planning material that I saw, and was humbled by. 

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2009/Bids/Buenos_Aires#Budget

Nick/Zanimum


http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2006/Toronto
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2008/Toronto
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2009/Toronto





On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Casey Brown <lists@caseybrown.org> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Andrew Leung <andrewcleung@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In my opinion, it's easier to work on Toronto's bid since it was one of the
> final 4 shortlisted submission, which demonstrated that the bid is of good
> quality.
>

...but the same bid has been attempted like three times, hasn't it?
Perhaps it would be a good idea to try something new?  Look at all the
work already done on the Montreal bid.  The main issues with the
Toronto bids, from what I recall, have been manpower and interested
helpers.  These are things that the Montreal bid has so far. :-)

--
Casey Brown
Cbrown1023

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