Does anyone want to start a Toronto bid? I would if there're others who also want to see Toronto winning the bid in 2011. We just need to update and add more information on top of our previous 2009 bid.

Andrew

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> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:39:36 -0400
> From: wikiroux@gmail.com
> To: wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] Wikimania Montreal 2011?
>
> I have a background in event planning/conference organising/etc, and
> contacts in the relevant industries, so can be a resource for that if
> asked.
>
> enwiki: [[User:Roux]] • wikiroux@gmail.com
>
>
>
> 2009/9/11 Ray Saintonge <saintonge@telus.net>:
> > Casey Brown wrote:
> >> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:18 PM, ktsquare<ktsquare@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Agree with Casey.
> >>>
> >> ...but that all being sad, Canada has a *very* high probability of
> >> getting it this year, especially with all the work being put into the
> >> Montréal bid already.  There's also no harm in starting to plan early,
> >> Seddon from WMUK is already working on a bid for Wikimania 2013!
> >> <http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Wikimania_Bid>
> >>
> >>
> > The informal rotation among continents favours a North American site for
> > 2011.   (The choice of Gdansk for 2010 breaks any kind of strict
> > rotation which would have put us in Australia for that year.)  A good
> > bid from elsewhere, particularly Australia, could conceivably put us
> > there in 2011, but there are some serious practical obstacles to such a
> > choice.
> >
> > If then Wikimania is to be in North America there is a strong
> > predisposition for it to be in Canada.  This certainly came up in
> > several casual conversations that I had in Buenos Aires; it was also
> > raised in casual conversations that I had in Frankfurt in 2005.  It is
> > now a matter of history that Toronto lost out to Boston for 2006; it
> > didn't have a chance to win for 2007 since that would have meant two
> > consecutive years in North America.
> >
> > A part of the predisposition also relates to the obsessive American
> > attitude toward Homeland Security.  In 2006 the US visa bureaucracy
> > proved too much for some Wikipedians whom we would have been very
> > pleased to see in attendance.  Some of us may have hoped that relaxation
> > of these restrictions would have come with the end of the Bush
> > administration, but comments made by Janet Napolitano do not give much
> > hope. The impression of Canada in the eyes of residents of other
> > countries is a more liberal one.
> >
> > Whatever the predispositions, there can be no Wikimania in Canada
> > without a functional local group willing to do the work of putting a bid
> > together, and the even greater work that is involved in bringing the
> > conference to fruition.  That means addressing all aspects of this
> > task.  Although Vancouver has also been mentioned in informal
> > conversations, (It could draw delegates from the western US.) I don't
> > see enough local organizational structure here to bring it off   That
> > leaves it up to the Montrealers to see if they can pull this off.
> >
> > Ec
> >
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