Hi all,

Regarding the proposal to pay editor and reviewers, I would be happy to
be paid because at the moment I have a lot of other job to do and not
have so much time to dedicate to WIkiJournal of Science, but in case
this activity becomes a job, I would be very happy to spend more time
and efforts on it and less time on other jobs.

Daniele Pugliesi


Il 2018-08-11 22:45 Mikael Häggström ha scritto:
> I have hence received one other disagreeing reply from a board member,
> but I assumed the result by agreeing by the points raised by ML.
> However, let's indeed wait for some further replies before concluding
> this.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mikael
>
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 10:24 PM, Jackie Koerner
> <jackie.koerner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mikael,
>>
>> Only one member of the Boards has thus far disagreed in this email
>> thread. Have there been others who have responded to you directly?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Jackie
>>
>> --
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>> Jackie Koerner, Ph.D.
>> Researcher & Visiting Scholar
>> jackiekoerner.com [1]
>>
>> On Aug 11, 2018, at 2:36 PM, Mikael Häggström
>> <editor.in.chief@wikijmed.org> wrote:
>>
>> Very well, so it seems we won't add this to next year's grant
>> proposal. I'm still keeping it in mind as a last resort if the
>> administrative backlogs are further increasing, but I also hope that
>> the alternative of having a hired associate editor will decrease the
>> burden significantly anyways.
>>
>> I also forward a response from Diptanshu on this matter.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Mikael
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Dr. Diptanshu Das
>> <das.diptanshu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Mikael
>>
>> I strongly oppose your proposal of such a compensation. Thanks
>> Michael for already having put the salient points prior to me.
>> WikiJournal is not just another journal system the expenses of which
>> are borne by Wikimedia Foundation. We are more. We are built on the
>> principles of Wikipedia. Those who do not have any association with
>> the free knowledge movement or who are not associated with such
>> collaborative contribution would simply not understand this. Our
>> objective should be to attract candidates who are not familiar with
>> the free knowledge movement. So, I assume that being a volunteer is
>> a pre-requisite. Michael is right in pointing out that if we cannot
>> make the project run on volunteers, perhaps we need to reconsider
>> the model.
>>
>> I need to mention that over the last several years the sister
>> project affiliation committee has not approved a single sister
>> project (barring Wikidata which was approved entirely on different
>> grounds) because the projects have not proved themselves fit to be
>> run by volunteers alone and that granting Wikiversity the status of
>> sister project has been considered one of the biggest blunders of
>> the WMF.
>>
>> Please forward this email to the respective boards of which I am not
>> a member.
>>
>> Regards
>> Diptanshu
>>
>> Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to.
>>
>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 at 13:22, Michaël Laurent
>> <michael.laurent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Personally I disagree. There are numerous projects within the
>> Wikimedia foundation and most of them rely on volunteers. If we
>> cannot expand it to a critical mass without throwing money at it
>> perhaps we should first reconsider the model.
>>
>> Again I propose to look at some of the Frontiers journals. They have
>> a huge board of reviewers facilitating peer review. Perhaps we
>> should invite more editors too.
>>
>> BW ML
>>
>> Op vr 10 aug. 2018 22:54 schreef Jackie Koerner
>> <jackie.koerner@gmail.com>:
>>
>> I think this is a very reasonable proposal. I do think this should
>> be discussed annually in case we need to adjust to be a more
>> appropriate amount. This would be, say as workload and demands
>> increase, or as budget overall increases, the stipend might be
>> adjusted.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Jackie
>>
>> --
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>> Jackie Koerner, Ph.D.
>> Researcher & Visiting Scholar
>> jackiekoerner.com [1]
>>
>> On Aug 10, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Mikael Häggström
>> <editor.in.chief@wikijmed.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello again,
>>
>> I have informed the board at WikiJMed that I would prefer to see
>> someone with more time than me to be the editor-in-chief when my
>> term ends by New Year, and the Assistant editor-in-chief has
>> expressed a similar attitude to it. Yet, the only other candidate to
>> the editor-in-chief position has also expressed reluctance to it.
>> For the long term survival of the journals I think we need to add a
>> monetary compensation to editor-in-chiefs, and practically also to
>> add an incentive to apply to this position.
>>
>> I think an annual compensation of let's say $2000 for each
>> editor-in-chief and $1000 for each assistant would be a humble start
>> as part of the grant application for next year, especially
>> considering that average salaries for editors-in-chief in the US are
>> about $85.000 (link [2]) and $57.000 for assistants (link) [3].
>> Also, it is very humble comparing to the generally $100.000+ that
>> many people make within Wikimedia Foundation (link [4]), and the
>> income of $91 million that Wikimedia Foundation received in 2017
>> (link) [5]. Thus, we can definitely adjust this amount further in
>> the future depending on the success of this grant application.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Mikael
>>
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