On Sun, 12 Aug 2018 at 2:52 AM, Ian Alexander <iany@scenarioplus.org.uk> wrote:

Mikael

I'm happy to support your proposal.

Ian

On Sat, August 11, 2018 9:45 pm, Mikael Häggström wrote:
> I have hence received one other disagreeing reply from a board member,
> but I assumed the result by agreeing by the points raised by ML. However,
> let's indeed wait for some further replies before concluding this.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Mikael
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 10:24 PM, Jackie Koerner
> <jackie.koerner@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> Mikael,
>>
>>
>> Only one member of the Boards has thus far disagreed in this email
>> thread. Have there been others who have responded to you directly?
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Jackie
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jackie Koerner, Ph.D.
>> Researcher & Visiting Scholar
>> jackiekoerner.com
>>
>> On Aug 11, 2018, at 2:36 PM, Mikael Häggström <
>> editor.in.chief@wikijmed.org> wrote:
>>
>> Very well, so it seems we won't add this to next year's grant proposal.
>> I'm still keeping it in mind as a last resort if the administrative
>> backlogs are further increasing, but I also hope that the alternative of
>> having a hired associate editor will decrease the burden significantly
>> anyways.
>>
>> I also forward a response from Diptanshu on this matter.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>> Mikael
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Dr. Diptanshu Das <
>> das.diptanshu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Mikael
>>>
>>>
>>> I strongly oppose your proposal of such a compensation. Thanks
>>> Michael
>>> for already having put the salient points prior to me. WikiJournal is
>>> not just another journal system the expenses of which are borne by
>>> Wikimedia
>>> Foundation. We are more. We are built on the principles of Wikipedia.
>>> Those
>>> who do not have any association with the free knowledge movement or
>>> who are not associated with such collaborative contribution would
>>> simply not understand this. Our objective should be to attract
>>> candidates who are not familiar with the free knowledge movement. So,
>>> I assume that being a
>>> volunteer is a pre-requisite. Michael is right in pointing out that if
>>> we cannot make the project run on volunteers, perhaps we need to
>>> reconsider the model.
>>>
>>> I need to mention that over the last several years the sister project
>>> affiliation committee has not approved a single sister project
>>> (barring
>>> Wikidata which was approved entirely on different grounds) because the
>>> projects have not proved themselves fit to be run by volunteers
>>> alone and that granting Wikiversity the status of sister project has
>>> been considered one of the biggest blunders of the WMF.
>>>
>>> Please forward this email to the respective boards of which I am not
>>> a member.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Diptanshu
>>>
>>>
>>> Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 at 13:22, Michaël Laurent
>>> <michael.laurent@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Personally I disagree. There are numerous projects within the
>>>> Wikimedia
>>>> foundation and most of them rely on volunteers. If we cannot expand
>>>> it to a critical mass without throwing money at it perhaps we should
>>>> first reconsider the model.
>>>>
>>>> Again I propose to look at some of the Frontiers journals. They
>>>> have a huge board of reviewers facilitating peer review. Perhaps we
>>>> should invite more editors too.
>>>>
>>>> BW ML
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Op vr 10 aug. 2018 22:54 schreef Jackie Koerner <
>>>> jackie.koerner@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I think this is a very reasonable proposal. I do think this
>>>>> should be discussed annually in case we need to adjust to be a
>>>>> more appropriate amount. This would be, say as workload and
>>>>> demands increase, or as budget overall increases, the stipend
>>>>> might be adjusted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jackie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jackie Koerner, Ph.D.
>>>>> Researcher & Visiting Scholar
>>>>> jackiekoerner.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 10, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Mikael Häggström <
>>>>> editor.in.chief@wikijmed.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello again,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have informed the board at WikiJMed that I would prefer to see
>>>>> someone with more time than me to be the editor-in-chief when my
>>>>> term ends by New Year, and the Assistant editor-in-chief has
>>>>> expressed a similar attitude to it. Yet, the only other candidate
>>>>> to the editor-in-chief position has also expressed reluctance to
>>>>> it. For the long term survival of the journals I think we need to
>>>>> add a monetary compensation to editor-in-chiefs, and practically
>>>>> also to add an incentive to apply to this position.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think an annual compensation of let's say $2000 for each
>>>>> editor-in-chief and $1000 for each assistant would be a humble
>>>>> start as part of the grant application for next year, especially
>>>>> considering that average salaries for editors-in-chief in the US
>>>>> are about $85.000 (link
>>>>> <https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/editor-in-chief-salary-SRCH_K
>>>>> O0,15.htm>)
>>>>> and $57.000 for assistants (link)
>>>>> <https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/assistant-to-the-editor-in-ch
>>>>> ief-salary-SRCH_KO0,32.htm>. Also, it is very humble comparing to
>>>>> the generally $100.000+ that many people make within Wikimedia
>>>>> Foundation (link
>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_salaries>),
>>>>> and the income of $91 million that Wikimedia Foundation received
>>>>> in 2017 (link)
>>>>> <https://annual.wikimedia.org/2017/financials.html>. Thus, we
>>>>> can definitely adjust this amount further in the future depending
>>>>> on the success of this grant application.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mikael
>>>>>
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