Dear AllI would like to back Mikael. I also think that inclusion of $300 for the domain and $200 for the trademark are justified. As of now I would not be worried about the co-existence of another WikiJournal. However, I feel that our tagline (or something similar) should contain something to distinguish among the two.RegardsDiptanshu Das--Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to.On 26 February 2017 at 15:25, James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.com> wrote:Having the same name is not a huge issue. For example there are three medical journals called "Open Medicine" (one in Canada, one in Europe, and one in the Arabic peninsula). There are also more than a dozen cities called London https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_(disambiguation) J----On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Mikael Häggström <editor.in.chief@wikijmed.org> wrote:--I appreciate your views. As for the Wikimedia Journal name, we did have a name vote a while ago to choose the current name, and that one was among the candidates (but only received a few votes): https://en.wikiversityAlthough WikiJournal of Medicine is a registered non-profit organization, the WikiJournal name is not yet registered as a trademark by anyone. Perhaps we should add $200 to the next grant application to have the trademark registered, and then have it recognized internationally through the Madrid system..org/wiki/WikiJournal/Future_a s_separate_Wikimedia_project#N ame_election I don't find the co-existence of Philip's wikijournal.org to exclude our usage of the WikiJournal name. Also, as I understand, his project is a more inclusionist wiki than Wikipedia, and supported by AdSense ads in the articles since his goal is also to make it profitable. I actually doubt he will continue that project in the long run. I think he bought the wikijournal.org for a couple of hundred dollars, so in this year's grant application (link to that of last year) I think we can also apply for a single addition of perhaps about $300 to offer him for the domain, which I think he is likely to eventually take. Although he has invested considerable time developing his project, his project design is indeed different from our own visions, so I don't see any other aspect of wikijournal.org that we should use apart from the domain name. Nevertheless, I think we may also offer him credit as "creator of the wikijournal.org domain" at our Milestones. In any case, I think we will get hold of the wikijournal.org domain before becoming a separate Wikimedia project.Best regards,MikaelOn Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:57 AM, Daniel Mietchen <daniel.mietchen@googlemail.com > wrote:Dear all,
I have not been privy to those past conversations but here are my
comments anyway:
- I am not thrilled about the name WikiJournal, given that
https://wikijournal.org/ exists and what it does.
- there is still room to sort out naming issues as long as we are not
formally organized
- there was a similar situation with Wikitravel, which resulted in the
name change to Wikivoyage
- another similar situation arose with WikiProject Med, which wanted
to be registered as "Wikimedia Medicine", but that was not OKed by WMF
- I am not sure having WikiJournal (under whatever name) as a
different sister project is the best way to move forward, and in any
case, it is not obvious to me how Philip could help with that other
than by contributing the domain.
- If it were to become a new sister project, why not just go for
something like https://journal.wikimedia.org and perhaps "Wikimedia
Journal"?
- I think it makes sense to aim at becoming a thematic organization as
a next step, once the naming issue is sorted out
Cheers,
Daniel> ______________________________
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Gwinyai Masukume
<parturitions@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Diptanshu,
>
> Several of us were not keen on Wikijournal because the name had already been
> used. I guess the naming issue is now water under the bridge.
>
> Kindest regards,
> Gwinyai
>
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 3:08 AM, Diptanshu Das <das.diptanshu@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> If you people remember, I had initially spoken against adaptation of the
>> name Wikijournal. It was because of the confusion that entities like
>> https://en.wikijournal.org/wiki/WikiJournal may create. The subsequent vote
>> shifted toward WikiJournal and that is perfectly ok but our by-laws should
>> clearly mention about this WikiJournal, the Wiki Journal Club etc. stating
>> that these are independent and un-affiliated.
>>
>> Regards
>> Diptanshu
>>
>>
>> Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to.
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>> On 25 February 2017 at 01:57, Mikael Häggström
>> <editor.in.chief@wikijmed.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi WikiJournal participants!
>>>
>>> I had a talk with the domain owner of wikijournal.orgrecently, and it is
>>> possible to merge our projects if we attain a WikiJournal/Future as separate
>>> Wikimedia project - see also talk entry there at
>>> en.wikijournal.org/wiki/Talk:WikiJournal . I think the most important next
>>> step is to become a "thematic organization", proving that we can work as a
>>> separate organization: I can start a draft of bylaws soon.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Mikael
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