I have found that Wikipedia users like to squabble a
lot over trivial issues. It is easy for me to stay
out of this because I simply don't engage in these
types of arguments. I'm here because I like writing
and reading articles. (I don't care enough about my
being right to engage in an edit war just to prove a
point) I have found that many users participate in
edit wars just to prove that they are they are right.
In reality, the users who engage in edit wars cause
problems, regardless of whether or not they are right.
I find it comical that users such as wik will state
that they don't believe in the 3 rv rule. Three
reverts is very generous. It should be more like 2.
I think users need to stop arguing over silly things
and actually write articles. We could be getting much
more work done if we didn't spend so much time
arguing. I realize that we still need to argue, but
engaging in revert wars doesnt fix an article.
--- Fred Bauder <fredbaud(a)ctelco.net> wrote:
I think one thing I could do is simply to quit
arguing about folks who are
are here to push a point of view and just accept
folks will ordinarilly do
that and that it is ok provided other points of view
are also expressed.
Fred
From: Jimmy Wales <jwales(a)bomis.com>
Reply-To: English Wikipedia
<wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 07:17:25 -0800
To: wikien-l(a)wikimedia.org
Subject: [WikiEN-l] Are things getting worse?
Is the amount of internal squabbling getting worse
or better? My
rough sense is that it's getting worse, but
maybe
I'm just tired of it
and therefore perceiving it to be more of a
problem lately.
What can we all do to build a sense of love and
harmony? What can
each of us do to alter our own behavior to be
supportive of others,
less argumentative, more productive?
Is the mediation/arbitration system working to
increase internal
political problems, or do decrease those
problems?
Or, is it way too
early to tell?
My concern is that it seems to me that we're
spending way too much
time on internal court intruigues, to our
detriment. Every day, it
seems, there's some new crisis of management,
some
new emergency ban,
some new sysop crossing the line.
Part of this was caused, I think, by a perceived
power vacuum after
the start of the year. I was out of the business
of policing, but the
arbitration committee was still not ready.
Sysops
felt a real need to
do something to stop some real problem users. It
was a vicious cycle.
But, what about now? How can we bring about
peace?
--Jimbo
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