On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 07:03:37PM -0800, Zoe wrote: A) Mav summarily reverted a lot of my edits on the strength of some bullshit Zionist claims that I was biased, anti-Semitic, and the like. I assumed 24 was another person who had received that treatment from Mav. B) The "threat" was obviously referring to the massive ethnic conflicts that have been happening through history, including very recent history, where groups without power wreak bloody vengeance when they finally gain the upper hand. I understood his quoted statement as a way of saying "be nice now, and when the people who think like me have the power, they won't considers themselves to have cause to purge and pogrom the people who think like you." HOWEVER! In private correspondance I have been told that 24 has a long history of threatening extreme violence, and showing signs of being mentally disturbed in a criminally dangerous way. Given this, I hasten to add that my analysis of 24's statement lacks the context of people who have dealt with 24 on an on-going basis. Erik may very well have received death threats from 24, and I encourage him to contact the police. I encourage Erik to give the police more context than I saw in that first post; the police, knowing 24 as much as I did (ie, not at all), may very well interpret the post the same way I did; as harmless crankery. Jonathan -- Geek House Productions, Ltd. Providing Unix & Internet Contracting and Consulting, QA Testing, Technical Documentation, Systems Design & Implementation, General Programming, E-commerce, Web & Mail Services since 1998 Phone: 604-435-1205 Email: djw(a)reactor-core.org Webpage: http://reactor-core.org Address: 2459 E 41st Ave, Vancouver, BC V5R2W2

On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 01:35:41PM +0100, Erik Moeller wrote: Right. s/Eric/Dan/ in my previous email. Jonathan -- Geek House Productions, Ltd. Providing Unix & Internet Contracting and Consulting, QA Testing, Technical Documentation, Systems Design & Implementation, General Programming, E-commerce, Web & Mail Services since 1998 Phone: 604-435-1205 Email: djw(a)reactor-core.org Webpage: http://reactor-core.org Address: 2459 E 41st Ave, Vancouver, BC V5R2W2

On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 08:14:31PM -0800, Axel Boldt wrote: I am still deeply offended and hurt by the anti-goy bigotry and fanaticism of people like RK and his pals. I am not 142, but I can easily understand why he would get pissed off at the severe Zionist bias that has pervaded the Wikipedia. Jonathan -- Geek House Productions, Ltd. Providing Unix & Internet Contracting and Consulting, QA Testing, Technical Documentation, Systems Design & Implementation, General Programming, E-commerce, Web & Mail Services since 1998 Phone: 604-435-1205 Email: djw(a)reactor-core.org Webpage: http://reactor-core.org Address: 2459 E 41st Ave, Vancouver, BC V5R2W2

For those who are new to the scene, I'll just say this. The particular details of partisan politics (Republican, Democrat, Green, Libertarian, etc., etc.) are not relevant here. 24 is outside those normal categories. His actual political ideas are an incomprehensible mish-mash of vaguely leftist notions, but I think there's absolutely every reason to take what he said as a threat. How credible is the threat? I don't know. But credible enough to take legal action, in my opinion. --Jimbo

Jonathan Walther wrote: I disagree. Threats of murder are absolutely impermissible and do, in fact, warrant police action. What we're engaged in here, writing an encyclopedia, is a simple and kind hobby, a gift to the world, put forward with genuine concern for the well-being of all humanity. There's absolutely nothing about what we are doing that should expose any of us to threats of harm. The very idea is ludicrous. --Jimbo