Wikipedia Shepherds

Im sorry -- I wish you well on your recovery :) The way I would answer that is this -- "shepherdship" doesnt imply that people are lemmings... Sheep allow people to lead them because theyre domesticable -- domesticability -- as one of its criteria -- requires a supplantable heirarchy. Its a relationship -- not a blind sort of groupthink. To deal with the idea on more "scriptural" grounds -- as an analogy the passage where God gives man "dominion over the beasts in the land birds in the air fish in the sea" --- "Dominion" sounds kina like domination -- in fact what it means is shepherdship -- There are good shepherds and bad ones... Generally we aspire to be gooder ones. :) "Guardianship" in that passage might be a better word, perhaps. But "guardian" loses its teaching aspect. -S- Respectfully -S- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

tarquin

7 Aug 7 Aug

1:01 a.m.

Steve Vertigo wrote:

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--- Daniel Mayer <maveric149(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

As a recovering Assemblies of God/700 Club member/Young Republican, that sounds rather paternal; so everybody else are sheep?

To deal with the idea on more "scriptural" grounds -- as an analogy the passage where God gives man "dominion over the beasts in the land birds in the air fish in the sea" --- "Dominion" sounds kina like domination -- in fact what it means is shepherdship --

a good reason to object -- the reference to biblical stuff (and sadly some people *do* interpret it as domination)

Steve Vertigo

1:31 a.m.

Talk about catch 22 -- Mav asked a fair question -- I answered it in two languages -- sciencespeak and nondemomitational/nonreligious quasi-byblespeak -- and apparently neither of these was intelligible to at least one person on this list. Go figure. -S- --- tarquin <tarquin(a)planetunreal.com> wrote:

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Steve Vertigo wrote:

--- Daniel Mayer <maveric149(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >As a recovering Assemblies of God/700 Club >member/Young Republican, that >sounds rather paternal; so everybody else are

sheep?

To deal with the idea on more "scriptural" grounds

as an analogy the passage where God gives man "dominion over the beasts in the land birds in the

air

fish in the sea" --- "Dominion" sounds kina like domination -- in fact what it means is shepherdship

a good reason to object -- the reference to biblical stuff (and sadly some people *do* interpret it as domination) _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

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Steve Vertigo

1:34 a.m.

New subject: Wikipedia WTF

why is the wiki screwing up -- giving me "Wikipedia is a multilingual [[ejfdk???????????????fdfDFDfa?????DF" ? (paraphrasing.) Only happens when Im logged in. Maybe it go away manana. -S- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

Brion Vibber

2:16 a.m.

New subject: Wikipedia WTF

Steve Vertigo wrote:

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why is the wiki screwing up -- giving me "Wikipedia is a multilingual [[ejfdk???????????????fdfDFDfa?????DF" ? (paraphrasing.)

Database was doing some funky stuff. After much cursing and beating, it's restarted and seems to be behaving. If you see any more such corrupted pages, revert them to the last good edit. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

Toby Bartels

6:44 a.m.

Daniel Mayer wrote:

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As a recovering Assemblies of God/700 Club member/Young Republican, that sounds rather paternal; so everybody else are sheep?

ROTFLMAO!!! (And I don't usually say that.) Sorry, mav, but I was just imagining you sitting in front of a TV, watching Pat Robertson and getting all worked up with righteousness. For those worried that "firefighter" tends to imply that a wave of newbies is a problem (a raging fire), just remember that it was originally the Wikipedia "militia". Anyway, I suggest "guide". -- Toby

Dante Alighieri

12:07 p.m.

At 06:44 AM 8/7/2003, you wrote:

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For those worried that "firefighter" tends to imply that a wave of newbies is a problem (a raging fire), just remember that it was originally the Wikipedia "militia". Anyway, I suggest "guide". -- Toby

How about docent? We could all be a bunch of park rangers. ;) ----- Dante Alighieri dalighieri(a)digitalgrapefruit.com "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of great moral crisis." -Dante Alighieri, 1265-1321

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