Robert <rkscience100(a)yahoo.com> writes: This is the "bizarre rant" in full. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- The US-Israeli relationship, almost since Israel's beginning, had been based a history of trust between the two countries-- dealing materially with the maintaining of [[Anglo]]-[[American]] [[oil interests]] in the region, and unwavering US support for Israel in the [[UN]]. The current climate of Christian Jewish reconciliation is seen by people of various political shades, in one respect or another, as being hand-in-hand with their mutually supportive political, military, and economic relationship. But this tenor of reconciliation also presents some political conflicts in light of the [[War on Terror]]. Arabs in the USA and Europe have at times expressed a resentment at the strength of the US-Israeli relationship, as a union of powers with the sole purpose of isolating Arabs, Arab human rights causes, and even Islam-- being the sole [[Abrahamic religion]] isolated from Judeo-Christian reconciliations. Religion is seen by some Muslims as the final straw-- the final social compact between US and Israeli societies, at the exclusion of Arab Muslims. Yet many Jews and Christians do not see it this way. In fact they express a great deal of sincerity in terms of wanting to see Jewish and Christian relationship further healed, having a very long and terrible history of ethnic hostility between them, which eventually culminated in the Holocaust in the mid [[20th]] century. They hold the view that the political connection between the US and Israel is a side issue-- not bearing on the importance and merit of a growing understanding between Christians and Jews. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm sorry, but that does not strike me as : i) anti-semitic ii) anti-catholic iii) POV iv) Bizarre v) Unsuitable for the article. US / Israeli relations are certainly -- and their effect on the continuing Arab / Israeli conflict -- seem very important to Christian / Jewish relations RK, is there anyone with whom you disagree who you not prepared to call an Anti-Semite? -- Gareth Owen "It's not a human or civic right to edit wikipedia." -- kq cuts to the core of the banning debate

Robert wrote: You mean this: Some argue that the desire of some Jews to see the [[Second Vatican Council]] as a wonderfully revolutionary Council that "ended anti-semitism" is due to destruction of the Catholic Church that followed that Council and which appealed to the [[anti-Christianism]] of some practitioners of Judaism. I don't see the problem with that to be honest, the view is attributed, though it is ambiguously worded around "is due to destruction". Maybe a change to this part to ensure that it is clear that this is the view of the "some" mentioned at the start of the sentence; and not either a Jewish view or an opinion posing as fact?