On 26 Nov 2008, at 23:09, Angus McLellan wrote:
Disambiguation pages are to make the ambiguous
unambiguous. So is
Ireland ambiguous? I reckon the answer, as so often, would be that
it depends.
That would signify ambiguity.
If you're looking for stuff on natural sciences,
chances are you
want the island. The current situation suits just fine. Same for
history. Current events? The current situation is icky. Culture?
High culture, ok. Pop culture, probably not. Biographies? Dead
people handily outnumber the living, so the present setup should be
good, although in practice it may not be until other groups are as
well represented as TDs, hurlers and gaelic footballers.
So... it's ambiguous.
In my humble opinion, this is just more old bollocks
of the kind we
have more than enough of on topics like Macedonia.
Well, since I'm not trying to edit Macedonia, I don't care. But I am
interested in Ireland, and we're not getting anywhere improving any
articles because of this nomenclature dispute.
If it's not what to call the political entity
formerly known as the
Free State, it's British Isles versus Britain and Ireland, or some
nonsense with the Troubles or the Famine. Ireland an honorary
Eastern European subject?
That's not very helpful. That's just effing glib. Thanks. :-(
It makes sense.
I came here looking for help to end this nightmare. We've got a decent
proposal for sorting out the ambiguity. Right now, the nay-sayers are
doing a good job drumming up "Oppose" votes. Mostly there is no
argument. It's fucking tribalism and I can't stand it. They might
"win" because they are organized. It won't solve anything and we'll be
back here again.
Please, folks, HELP. Look at the requests to move the two pages and
comment. That's the least you can do.
Michael Everson *
http://www.evertype.com