You are absolutely right. But let me give you some background to my question. I'm one of the 2 sysops on HuWiki. We have a growing, but still fragile community with about 20 very active (100+ edits / month) editors. Currently we experienced the first onslaught of quite persistent trolls and disruptive users ever. Unfortunately several of the key policies have never been translated including WP:SOCK or have been translated before but never had to be put into use like 3RR. A couple of days ago we had to issue the first blocks for 3RR and the two sysops were vehemently attacked by the blocked users and their friends, demanding our resignation. I know it's business as usual in EnWiki, but to me, this was my first trial by fire as a sysop (i.e. being called a "nazi"). We're in the process of translating and clarifying all key policies and that's how I found out this inconsistency in the word of the policy and common practice in EnWiki. The reason I wanted to clarify this is because I know I'm going to be *personally* attacked because of this if its not crystal clear in our version. :( BTW, do you know how the initial policies of smaller Wikipedia's get formulated? Are they translations of EnWiki policies? Or do they have their own local benevolent dicator like Jimbo, who has the final say in these matters (at least initially)? Or do people in smaller Wikipedias vote on each and every policy from day 1? Thanks, nyenyec On 6/27/05, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 28/06/05, Nyenyec N <nyenyec(a)gmail.com> wrote: Perhaps just ensure that it is clear in the final hu.policy that, when you say "user", you mean "the user John Smith" not "the username johnsmith"? It may be that this allows ambiguities - people trying to argue that socks shouldn't be blocked because they interpret "user" as being "username" not "person"... And best of luck keeping the peace! -- - Andrew Gray andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk