Michael's behaviour is gone beyond annoying at this stage. We have talked and talked about contacting AOL. Has that been done? If not, can I please as Jim or one of the developers /as a matter or urgency/ to do it. The little turd (sorry if the terminology is unusual but I can think of no less offensive term to call him and a lot stronger) has been moving around various users' pages, invariably the pages of Hephaestos and occasionally others, including Jim O'Regan's now. Among his targeting of Hep's pages have been : * (cur) (last) . . M 03:50, 29 Aug 2003 . . Hephaestos (Reverted to last edit by Hephaestos) * (cur) (last) . . 03:50, 29 Aug 2003 . . Hephaestos' Account * (cur) (last) . . M 03:50, 29 Aug 2003 . . Hephaestos (Reverted to last edit by Delirium) * (cur) (last) . . M 03:49, 29 Aug 2003 . . Hephaestos' Account (So, you were born on St. Christopher's day 1953, huh?) * (cur) (last) . . M 03:40, 29 Aug 2003 . . Delirium (Reverted to last edit by Hephaestos) * (cur) (last) . . 03:36, 29 Aug 2003 . . Hephaestos' Account * (cur) (last) . . 03:35, 29 Aug 2003 . . Hephaestos' Account * (cur) (last) . . 16:58, 28 Aug 2003 . . Hephaestos (just a note. please?) * (cur) (last) . . M 16:56, 28 Aug 2003 . . Hephaestos * (cur) (last) . . M 00:59, 28 Aug 2003 . . Hephaestos (Reverted to last edit by Hephaestos) * (cur) (last) . . 00:59, 28 Aug 2003 . . Bastard (Hephaestos) * (cur) (last) . . M 00:53, 28 Aug 2003 . . Hephaestos (Reverted to last edit by Hephaestos) * (cur) (last) . . 00:53, 28 Aug 2003 . . Mr. Bush * (cur) (last) . . 05:23, 27 Aug 2003 . . Hephaestos * (cur) (last) . . 22:40, 4 Aug 2003 . . Evercat (rv) * (cur) (last) . . 22:38, 4 Aug 2003 . . 67.121.169.17 (Michael) * (cur) (last) . . M 10:21, 4 Aug 2003 . . Cyp (Reverted to last edit by Notheruser) * (cur) (last) . . 10:20, 4 Aug 2003 . . 202.147.80.212 * (cur) (last) . . M 08:04, 4 Aug 2003 . . Notheruser (Reverted to last edit by Notheruser) * (cur) (last) . . 08:04, 4 Aug 2003 . . 202.147.80.42 * (cur) (last) . . M 07:57, 4 Aug 2003 . . Notheruser (Reverted to last edit by Hephaestos) * (cur) (last) . . 07:56, 4 Aug 2003 . . Homohomo * (cur) (last) . . 07:56, 4 Aug 2003 . . Homohomo * (cur) (last) . . M 07:54, 4 Aug 2003 . . Hephaestos (Reverted to last edit by Notheruser) * (cur) (last) . . 07:54, 4 Aug 2003 . . 202.147.80.220 * (cur) (last) . . M 07:52, 4 Aug 2003 . . Notheruser (Reverted to last edit by Notheruser) * (cur) (last) . . 07:52, 4 Aug 2003 . . 202.147.80.220 * (cur) (last) . . 07:51, 4 Aug 2003 . . 202.147.80.220 * (cur) (last) . . M 07:50, 4 Aug 2003 . . Notheruser (Reverted to last edit by 202.147.80.220) * (cur) (last) . . 07:49, 4 Aug 2003 . . Homohomo * (cur) (last) . . 07:46, 4 Aug 2003 . . 202.147.80.220 * (cur) (last) . . 07:45, 4 Aug 2003 . . 202.147.80.220 * (cur) (last) . . M 19:31, 31 Jul 2003 . . Hephaestos * (cur) (last) . . M 05:35, 30 Jul 2003 . . Hephaestos * (cur) (last) . . M 05:30, 30 Jul 2003 . . Hephaestos (can you not -read-? Do not protect this page without INFORMING me. Thank you.) * (cur) (last) . . 04:11, 30 Jul 2003 . . Evercat (restoring) * (cur) (last) . . 04:07, 30 Jul 2003 . . 67.121.169.17 (Michael) (moved to "User:Hephaestos") * (cur) (last) . . 04:06, 30 Jul 2003 . . 67.121.169.17 (Michael) * (cur) (last) . . 04:05, 30 Jul 2003 . . 67.121.169.17 (Michael) * (cur) (last) . . 04:04, 30 Jul 2003 . . 67.121.169.17 (Michael) * (cur) (last) . . 04:02, 30 Jul 2003 . . Notheruser (moved to "User:Hephaestos") * (cur) (last) . . M 18:46, 27 Jul 2003 . . Koyaanis Qatsi * (cur) (last) . . 18:34, 27 Jul 2003 . . 67.121.191.130 * (cur) (last) . . M 10:17, 21 Jul 2003 . . Hephaestos (Reverted to last edit by Maveric149) * (cur) (last) . . 10:16, 21 Jul 2003 . . 66.235.39.157 * (cur) (last) . . M 03:17, 20 Jul 2003 . . Maveric149 * (cur) (last) . . M 03:16, 20 Jul 2003 . . Hephaestos (I could almost agree with that. My mom might take offense... :) ) * (cur) (last) . . M 02:37, 20 Jul 2003 . . Hephaestos (Reverted to last edit by Notheruser) * (cur) (last) . . 02:37, 20 Jul 2003 . . The Winner * (cur) (last) . . M 23:07, 18 Jul 2003 . . Notheruser (Reverted to last edit by Hephaestos) * (cur) (last) . . 23:06, 18 Jul 2003 . . 67.121.168.151 Michael's pseudonyms * User:Michael Contributions * User:Michael (Unbanned User) Contributions * User:Michael/Crass Contributions * User:Michael/NOFX Contributions * User:Michael/Trapeze Contributions * User:No-Fx Contributions * User:Weezer Contributions * User:Weezer/NOFX Contributions * User:Eddie Contributions * User:Fuck Contributions * User:UPSyNDROME Contributions * User:George Washington Contributions * User:NOFX Contributions * User:Michaelese Contributions * User:Crass/Tapeze Contributions * User:My Green Dice Contributions * User:Punk Contributions * User:Twister Contributions * User:Maynard James Keenan Contributions * User:Michaelism Contributions * User:Unbanned User Contributions * User:Jar Jar Binks Contributions * User:Steve Ignorant Contributions * User:George Washington (president) Contributions * User:Michael (Banned User) Contributions * User:Michael still wins! But Hephaestos still loses! Contributions * User:152.163.xx.xx Contributions * User:205.188.xx.xx Contributions * User:The Winner Contributions * User:Xxx.xxx.xx.xx Contributions * User:Michael's IP Contributions * User:67.121.169.17 (Michael) Contributions * User:Banned User Contributions * User:Michael-ish Contributions * User:Banned User Addition Contributions * User:24.130.213.242 (Michael) Contributions * User:MutantY Contributions * User:Michael J.J. Contributions * User:Michael vs. Hephaestos Contributions * User:Capable as Michael Contributions * User:Michael's Justice League Contributions * User:Mr. Bush Contributions * User:Bastard (Hephaestos) Contributions * User:The Bastard (Hephaestos) Contributions * User:The Bastard (Michael) Contributions * User:Mr. Banned User Contributions * User:64.12.9x.xx Contributions * User:Hephaestos' Account Contributions Whereas his early contributions focused on music pages, recently most of his targets are users' pages. I have had to protect Hep's pages on occasions when he isn't around and Michael is running riot over them. We need action to deal with this nutter as he obviously has no intention of going away. I don't think any other troll has delberately caused as much damage. At least DW/Black widow/JoeCanuck etc and Adam/Lir/Vera/Susan/Dietary Fiber/PP (who is back again BTW) did make positive as well as negative contributions, but Michael has done nothing but vandalism. So please, someone with authority, contact AOL and see can anything be done through it about Michael. In the meantime, sysops cannot ban 'named' users. That is an understandable and safe policy but in an emergency situation, as this is, I would like to suggest to developers that Hepaestos be given the power to do so, in the case of Michael. Hep has shown incredible restraint and solid judgment in dealing with the nutter. I think he can safely be trusted to use such a power responsibly. I will be reducing my commitment to wiki from next week due to work commitments. Mav is on less often. Jim will be away in Ibiza for a couple of weeks. Others used to dealing with Michael won't be around and developers aren't always around when Michael is, so I think it is reasonable to suggest that the target of most of his vandalism be given emergency powers to deal with Michael, pending a possible more permanent solution. Alternatively remove the power to move user pages, only temporarily, perhaps restricting the power to move a page to sysops, who would do moves requested by bona fide users who want to move their page. Other alternatives might be to allow only the user to move his or her page. Or place a lock on the moving of those user pages Michael continually targets, specifically Hep's. JT _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail