Again, they voted for the *concept* - an unfinished
puzzle ball that gave the impression of many
languages
(Erik kept on saying that the
concept-implementations
can and and should be improved). A great many people
simply *hated* the particular PM implementation of
that concept, so it was improved by a professional
designer. Still the same concept.
Many people (including me, and probably others) liked
the "concept" of the unfinished puzzle-piece globe
best in the original impimentation. No offence to
Nohat, but just because a profesional did it doesn't
necessarilly mean it's better.
http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2003-October/012323.html
(wikipedia-l post by Erik)
To be realistic, WikiEN-l really acts as the list for
dealing with most issues. Many fewer people subscribe
to Wikipedia-l than do WikiEN-l, and most of the
issues we discuss here have to do with the project as
a whole.
And uh, the announcements page, perhaps?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Announcements
Before that it was on the Main Page for a while but
I
moved it to the announcements page (one of the Nohat
logos was already "live" at that point; see my
complaint below).
Making announcements is what the announcements page
is
there for! Only very major announcements go on the
Main Page. Improving the logo is not major enough to
warrant that, IMO, but choosing the concept was.
Its also been on the Main Page of
http://meta.wikipedia.org/ for some time.
Alas, it should have been also inputted into
Wikimeida
News.
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_News
If you are concerned about meta issues and policy
then
you should pay attention to Wikipedia-l (*cough*
Erik's post) and meta (Main Page link). If you are
concerned with general Wikipedia-related issues then
read the Wikipedia Announcements page (*cough* link
to
meta page on this issue). Also, the word
"Announcements" is bolded on RC whenever there is a
new announcement.
No matter how many places it was announced, only
around 1/6 of the people that voted for one of the
main logos ended up voting for the revisions. Only the
people that didn't like the logo voted on the
revisions, mostly. And there was no way to vote for
the original one, only the modifications! Very
recently, that has changed, but very few people have
voted for or against the original yet. And of those
that actually did vote for or against the original
logo, all of them voted for it.
I was also a bit surprised that Nohat's logo
found
its
way on en.wikipedia so fast. I would have preferred
to
have the nohat logo go onto
test.wikipeida.org first
so that people could see how it looked on a
MediaWiki
installation (same for the original PM winning
logo).
There wasn't enough time for people to vote on it.
Someone is pushing this process too fast.
It is simply bad form and looks amateurish to keep
changing the logo on a website with over 200,000
pages
- as if some type of 'logo variant war' were going
on.
Even the most recent version of the nohat logo can
and
probably will be swapped for another, even better
version.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
But the Nohat logo doesn't have any *words* on it! No
matter how many minor modifications are made, it still
won't have words. Wikipedia is about words, not just
letters.
Why weren't these modifications in the original logo
vote like other modifications were?
LDan
PS. About a week and a half ago, I posted some
complaints about the logo, but my comments were
deleted by an anon. I'm really mad at him/her, but I
can't do anything about it.
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