On 9/27/07, Jens Frank <jf(a)mormo.org> wrote: Ok, apparently I wasn't sufficiently clear. I'm not asking for suggestions to improve my experience with MediaWiki - I'm wondering how we can improve MediaWiki for end-users in general. Also, rather than making the browser itself narrow, I'm suggesting that we can take advantage of the extra width to improve layout, but without increasing linelength. Here's some ASCII art (it was only a matter of time): MW | Top links........... Logo | Contents | Title Links | Contents | Text text text text text | Image Links | Contents | Text text text text text | Image Links | Contents | Text text text text text | Links | Contents | | Infobox Links | Contents | Section 1 | Infobox Links | Contents | Text text text text text | Infobox Links | Contents | Text text text text text | Infobox Links | | Text text text text text | Infobox Links | | Text text text text text Links | | Text text text text text Links | | Text text text text text Links | | Text text text text text Links | | Text text text text text Links | | Text text text text text Links | | Text text text text text Links | | Text text text text text See how now the text is totally unencumbered by contents and infobox? So we're actually benefiting from the extra browser width, rather than it being a nuisance. Steve

On 9/28/07, Ian Woollard <ian.woollard(a)gmail.com> wrote: As far as I know, the image size is always provided to the browser in pixels but I do know that browsers will behave differently when resizing a document that contains images. When I hold down "ctrl" and roll the wheel in the middle of the mouse to zoom in or out, it will make the text appear larger or smaller, but in some browsers (such as Opera, but not Firefox) it will also scale the images. There might be a practical reason we would want to force the size of an image to remain proportionate to the text, like if we are displaying images (non-unicode symbols...) mid-paragraph, as part of a sentence. Egyptian hieroglyphics would be one example, but I don't foresee a reliable hack for something like that. —C.W.

On 9/28/07, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> wrote: You can add table.infobox { position:absolute; margin-left:102%; z-index:1} to have infoboxes floating outside the text as well. Magnus

On 9/28/07, Steve Bennett <stevagewp(a)gmail.com> wrote: Maybe I'm not seeing how this is much different than the effect of {{TOCleft}}. I did notice that the "documentation" and the talk page of that template allege that there is some way to do the same thing automatically with CSS, but nobody really explains how. —C.W.

On 9/27/07, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> wrote: That would be html { max-width:1280px; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto } to keep it working normally on smaller screens, sorry. Magnus