I think your wording is a good addition, except for one point. As I have argued a few times on WP:AN, I think administrators should avoid second-guessing each other. Therefore, I don't think people should be advised to go to a different administrator to unblock them than the one who imposed the block in the first place. This just encourages people who have been blocked to "forum shop" for the softest/friendliest admin they can find, playing administrators against each other. It is clear that there is antipathy between some administrators, and people shouldn't be able to exploit this. In the case where the 3RR violation is not disputed, and a person wants to apologize, express contrition etc, he or she should do that with the admin who imposed the block. The scenario where A blocks B, B expresses contrition to C, C unblocks B is not a good scenario. It puts the admins into conflict, and undermines their roles. Admins should avoid this scenario if at all possible. In the case where the blocked member wishes to dispute the 3RR block, that should be done initially with the admin who imposed the block, so that admin can recognize and reverse his own error, and apologize if appropriate to the blocked person, minimizing future bad feelings and conflict. Only if that fails should the blocked person be able to ask a different admin to intervene. The intervention in most cases should be to leave the block in place but to open a discussion about it on AN/I, so that a consensus can be formed about whether the block was proper or not. Once a consensus is established, any admin can implement it. Brian (BM) On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:03:33 +0100, MacGyverMagic/Mgm <macgyvermagic(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Or (in my experience) sometimes they just e-mail all admins, hoping someone will (for whatever reason) unblock them. It's kind of like standing in an apartment lobby and buzzing all the apartments; someone inevitably buzzes you in. I've unblocked 3RR violators immediately for doing exactly that. Well, one of the downsides of the more efficient ArbCom is that users want to bring every grievance they have there immediately. It doesn't help that RfC is only intermittently helpful, and RfM appears (at least in my experience) to still be completely non-functioning. Jay.

MacGyverMagic/Mgm wrote: That works two ways. Should it not have been the responsibility of the person doing the blocking to discuss it nicely first? After all, the sysop presumably has more experience here than the person that he is blocking. It is only natural for people who feel they have been attacked to react with anger, and to feel victimized. Ec