Sorry, this is not a place for you to play around Chris. This is a serious project and we have serious work to do here. We do not have time for all the nonsense that goes on these days. What one may view as "incivilty" may be viewed by another as an entirely different thing. The point is simply, to cool down and keep things serious here. We're not here to entertain people. On 1/15/07, Mark Ryan <ultrablue(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I certainly did not expect this issue to be taken to the mailing list > itself. Because you took the issue to the mailing list, I shall > respond to you on the mailing list. > > The best reaction would have been to reply with something to the > effect of 'okay, I won't call people's arguments "b.s." or suggest > that they be "taken out and shot"'. Not to turn around and claim that > I am equally uncivil (for violating the "etiquette" which somehow > demands that people who do the wrong thing not be told they are doing > so), humourless, suffering from some sort of psychosis, and a dick. > > I instituted a rule of civility on this mailing list a couple of years > ago in response to some extremely abusive posts by someone who > demanded to know what rule they had broken to get themselves moderated > on the list. It does not follow [[WP:CIVIL]] to the letter (in fact I > don't think I've even read that wiki page completely). It follows > common sense (specifically, the common sense of the list > administrators). > > If you cannot see that calling people's arguments 'specious' and > 'b.s.', and suggesting that the founder of such arguments should be > 'taken out and shot' can be interpreted to be personal attacks, then > I'm not sure anything I say to you is going to do any good. > > ~Mark Ryan > WikiEN-l mailing list admin > > P.S. Your emails are breaking mailing list threads in Gmail. > > > On 16/01/07, Christopher Thieme <cdthieme(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I just got admonished by "Mark" for being "uncivil" on this list with > regard > > to a comment I made in my initial message on "Moving the Main Page." > > > > I don't think I was. At least, from how I read the strict construction > of > > the policy, I didn't say anything ruled to be incivility by the dictates > > of WP:CIVIL. > > > > And going back to my post on what psychosis might be hidden in some of > > users, I forgot one of the biggest problems underneath the surface of > > Wikipedia... > > > > We have too many humorless people. > > > > Humorless people who enforce WP:CIVIL thinking that something benign > > and rhetorical and not even mentioned in WP:CIVIL is "incivility." > > > > And those who don't realize that it's incivility to admonish others > > for acting with "incivility." > > > > Here's probably the only circumstance where I'll state that WP:DICK > > and WP:FUCK are not a cop-out. > > > > Regards, > > Christopher D. Thieme > > > > > > P.S. I know I'm not alone in saying that I have considered leaving > Wikipedia > > on several occasions not because of incivility or personal attacks, but > > because there are people who can't and refuse to take an obvious > joke. The > > humorless people will ruin Wikipedia before those who aren't prim, > proper > > and civil.

Sorry, this is not a place for you to play around Chris. This is a serious project and we have serious work to do here. We do not have time for all the nonsense that goes on these days. What one may view as "incivilty" may be viewed by another as an entirely different thing. The point is simply, to cool down and keep things serious here. We're not here to entertain people.