Hundreds of movie-related articles currently contain a very prominent link to allmovie.com, as contained in the infobox film: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template%3AInfobox_Film http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Infobox_Film This is one of two links included in the infobox. The other one goes to IMDB.com. Allmovie.com is an advertising-heavy site with information about films. Its Alexa rank is consistently above 10,000. IMDB is the largest movie information database on the Net. Its Alexa rank is 32. There are other large databases, most notably perhaps the meta review site rottentomatoes.com (rank 930). I can see little reason to include a link to Allmovie.com. Its content is not freely licensed, nor of particularly impressive quality, and the amount of advertising is obnoxious. A November poll on the issue concluded 10/7 against keeping the link. Participation was primarily from WikiProject film editors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Films/archive6#VOTE The link has been kept due to "no consensus" for removal. I think that this issue needs a) wider attention and b) more debate in general terms. Is it appropriate and helpful for us to prominently feature a site like allmovie.com, which barely passes our notability criteria for websites, when other similar and larger sites are not featured in the same way? I have nothing in principle against linking to proprietary external content, but this choice strikes me as unusually selective and arbitrary. I will assume good faith (i.e. not a case of SEO) but I think if this link is to be kept, we need to develop more objective criteria for link inclusion. -- Peace & Love, Erik DISCLAIMER: This message does not represent an official position of the Wikimedia Foundation or its Board of Trustees. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l