Any accusee has the right to be heard for defense in the real world.
This takes time. In France, it can take years. 2 weeks is a minimum :-)

When there is very strong suspicion of crime, he can be maintained in
jail before the trial actually occur.


Rick a ?crit:
> That's ridiculous. TWO WEEKS? When a logged-in user is causing chaos
> and an attempt by anyone to do something about it will lead to THEIR
> being banned or having their sysop privileges taken away? That is NOT
> hasty, that's molasses slow. I see no reason why anything more than
> three days is necessary.
>
> RickK
>
> Fred Bauder wrote:
>
> I think the way you hold power in your own hands it that you, who are in
> contact with the problem, can initiate the conflict resolution
> procedure,
> beginning with talking to the party, asking for mediation, then
> arbitration.
>
> The arbitration committee (who if they are careful, are not in
> contact with
> the situation, at least not slugging it out) can if a case comes to us,
> rather rapidly decide a matter and prescribe a remedy. (A week or two is
> very rapid indeed in this context, even hasty).
>
> Fred Bauder, member of the arbitration committee
>
> > From: Anthere
> > Reply-To: anthere8@yahoo.com, English Wikipedia
> > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 08:43:36 +0100
> > To: wikien-l@wikipedia.org
> > Subject: [W ikiEN-l] Re: Plautus
> >
> >
> >
> > Martin Harper a ?crit:
> >> Arno M wrote:
> >>
> >>> When will something be done?
> >>
> >>
> >> Brian Corr wrote:
> >>
> >>> Could someone give an update on a timeline for action?
> >>
> >>
> >> Something will be done about Plautus when you do something about
> >> Plautus. The timeline for action on Plautus is roughly:
> >> 1) You decide to act.
> >> 2) You act.
> >
> > I liked your answer
> > But...I have another question
> >
> > Some people think that something should be done about Lir.
> >
> > Question they ask : When will something be done ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Answer they received from UserA :
> > * There is no problem with user Lir. So, you have no problem
> >
> > ====> Answer of the type : your opinion is irrelevant
> >
> >
> >
> > Answer they received from UserB :
> > * We are busy thinking about the matter. Please be patient, do not do
> > anything, we'll fix the problem for you, that is our job
> >
> > ====> Answer of the type : please, hold on, you are not in charge, we
> > are in charge. Go back to your own business
> >
> >
> > ---------
> >
> > Still, nothing happen
> >
> > ---------
> >
> >
> > What they do
> > 1) They decide to act.
> > 2) They act.
> >
> > Answer they received from UserC
> > * Your action was incorrect. You are out of the game. Next time,
> refer
> > to suggestion of UserB instead of trying to decide and act by
> yourself.
> >
> >
> > -------
> >
> > Comment from Anthere
> >
> > When general guidelines are inconsistant, and that half of people say
> > ''you are in charge, take charge'' and the half say ''do not do
> > anything, those who have responsa bility here will take care of the
> > matter for you'', is there proper consistancy in our message ?
> >
> > The vaccum cleaner hole is more than a hole.
> > People just do not know, whether they should refer to a group of user
> > from now on to fix their problems
> > Or if they should manage to deal with problems themselves
> >
> > -------
> >
> > So, yes, that is a good answer, but at least people from the
> arbitration
> > committee should be consistant in their answer, to those of us
> who are
> > wondering what action power we still hold. At least, to know whether
> > your answer, Martin, is the correct one, or the incorrect one.
> >
> > (I can have my own answer, but I suppose I would be the one to find
> > myself in front of arbitration if I applied it, so will I dare ?)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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