Hoi, Expanding to the full name of a language .... eh, do I speak Dutch, Niederlandisch or Nederlands ? And when I speak all those languages, how do I get all the different names for the language that I recognise as my mother tongue ? Thanks, Gerard On 10 January 2013 13:06, &lt;Carol.Bream(a)ec.europa.eu&gt; wrote: > Maybe you could incorporate a link to the International codes for > languages and expand the language code to the full name? > > Carol > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Carol Bream > Team Co-ordinator Library Applications, Thesaurus and Réseaubib > > European Commission > Central Library > ec.europa.eu/libraries > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The personal data contained in this document are dealt with in compliance > with Regulation (EC) No 45/2001 ofthe European Parliament and of the > Council of 18 December 2000 on the protection of individuals with regard to > the processing of personal data by the Community institutions and bodies > and on the free movement of such data. For more information, see > http://europa.eu/geninfo/legal_notices_en.htm#personaldata > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wikidata-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: > wikidata-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of > wikidata-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:00 PM > To: wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Wikidata-l Digest, Vol 14, Issue 9 > > Send Wikidata-l mailing list submissions to > wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikidata-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikidata-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikidata-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Order of language links (Jane Darnell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 13:02:58 +0100 > From: Jane Darnell &lt;jane023(a)gmail.com&gt; > To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." > &lt;wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; > Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Order of language links > Message-ID: > < > CAFVcA-FbSSTuP_AAHfjv4d5g9tjrD5uS_rsyUKvrWitQ7YjhhQ(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I think the order of languages is only important for articles with lots of > interwiki links, but for the vast majority of articles there will be less > than 5 or so and it doesn't matter. I often click on article interwikis > for > languages I don't know and can't read (like Japanese). I do this for > several reasons, the most prevalent being that I want to see > 1) How many links to that page are there in that language? > 2) How many items (and which items are these) that are in the articles > category in that language? > > I tend to only do this for the larger Wikipedia projects, where I do this > regularly as a trick to track down articles in foreign languages that are > good candidates to translate into English (the fathers/sons/siblings of > painters). > Jane > > 2013/1/8 Platonides &lt;platonides(a)gmail.com&gt; > > > On 08/01/13 22:31, LD 100 wrote: > > > I would preferred if this could also be changed by each users > > > individually in the settings (maybe the settings could be set > > > globally) > > > > Although preferences are evil, I see the point for customizing this. > > Having ar: in the top if I have no idea of that language is useless, I > > would prefer to sort first those languages I could understand, perhaps > > with a separator from those I definetely don't know (others might want > > to completely hide those). > > > > > > On 08/01/13 22:41, Meng Lu wrote: > > > It's an interesting point. I personally would prefer seeing the > > > Wikipedia instance's own language and English stay at the top, > followed > > > by the rest in alphabetical order. A longer stretch might be > > > providing alternative ordering methods for languages such as > > > alphabetical order, descending sizes of that page in each Wikipedia > > > instance. > > > > Article sizes are not a perfect estimator for article quality, but seems > > decent enough. However, it should be able to be overriden by marks of > > Featured-article / Good-article when some of the entries are tagged as > > such. > > Con: Any edit potentially means purgin the entries for all interwikis. > > Although if the interwiki sort order is stored in wikidata, and we > > perhaps aren't actively purgin the squid entries, that shouldn't be a > > problem. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikidata-l mailing list > > Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > > >

Is there a way to make the names of languages appear in the language of the wiki on which they are displayed? For example, the language links now are in whatever that language is called in that specific language, but in the future, would it be possible, say, on the English Wikipedia to have all language links say the name of the language in English, and on the Hungarian page they would all be in Hungarian, etc?

Please, no. , if, say, a Japanese reader lands on a page on the Hungarian Wikipedia, they need to see a link in Japanese. The Hungarian name for their language may mean nothing to them. On Jan 10, 2013 2:19 PM, "Nicholas Michael Bashour" < nicholasbashour(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Is there a way to make the names of languages appear in the language of > the wiki on which they are displayed? For example, the language links now > are in whatever that language is called in that specific language, but in > the future, would it be possible, say, on the English Wikipedia to have all > language links say the name of the language in English, and on the > Hungarian page they would all be in Hungarian, etc? > > -- > > Nicholas Michael Bashour > > President *|* Wikimedia District of Columbia<http://www.wikimediadc.org/> > > PO Box 9822 *| *Washington, DC 20016 > > **+32 0488 43 65 89 *|* <http://goog_1373167767/>+1 (202) 630 - 6248*|* > @NMichaelBashour <http://goog_1373167767/>*<http://www.twitter.com/nmichaelbashour> > **|*Nicholas.Bashour(a)wikimediadc.org > > > > 2013/1/10 Gerard Meijssen &lt;gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com&gt; > >> Hoi, >> Expanding to the full name of a language .... eh, do I speak Dutch, >> Niederlandisch or Nederlands ? And when I speak all those languages, how do >> I get all the different names for the language that I recognise as my >> mother tongue ? >> Thanks, >> Gerard >> >> >> On 10 January 2013 13:06, &lt;Carol.Bream(a)ec.europa.eu&gt; wrote: >> >>> Maybe you could incorporate a link to the International codes for >>> languages and expand the language code to the full name? >>> >>> Carol >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Carol Bream >>> Team Co-ordinator Library Applications, Thesaurus and Réseaubib >>> >>> European Commission >>> Central Library >>> ec.europa.eu/libraries >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> The personal data contained in this document are dealt with in >>> compliance with Regulation (EC) No 45/2001 ofthe European Parliament and of >>> the Council of 18 December 2000 on the protection of individuals with >>> regard to the processing of personal data by the Community institutions and >>> bodies and on the free movement of such data. For more information, see >>> http://europa.eu/geninfo/legal_notices_en.htm#personaldata >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wikidata-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: >>> wikidata-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of >>> wikidata-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:00 PM >>> To: wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> Subject: Wikidata-l Digest, Vol 14, Issue 9 >>> >>> Send Wikidata-l mailing list submissions to >>> wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> wikidata-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> wikidata-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Wikidata-l digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Order of language links (Jane Darnell) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 13:02:58 +0100 >>> From: Jane Darnell &lt;jane023(a)gmail.com&gt; >>> To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." >>> &lt;wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; >>> Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Order of language links >>> Message-ID: >>> < >>> CAFVcA-FbSSTuP_AAHfjv4d5g9tjrD5uS_rsyUKvrWitQ7YjhhQ(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> I think the order of languages is only important for articles with lots >>> of >>> interwiki links, but for the vast majority of articles there will be >>> less >>> than 5 or so and it doesn't matter. I often click on article interwikis >>> for >>> languages I don't know and can't read (like Japanese). I do this for >>> several reasons, the most prevalent being that I want to see >>> 1) How many links to that page are there in that language? >>> 2) How many items (and which items are these) that are in the articles >>> category in that language? >>> >>> I tend to only do this for the larger Wikipedia projects, where I do >>> this >>> regularly as a trick to track down articles in foreign languages that >>> are >>> good candidates to translate into English (the fathers/sons/siblings of >>> painters). >>> Jane >>> >>> 2013/1/8 Platonides &lt;platonides(a)gmail.com&gt; >>> >>> > On 08/01/13 22:31, LD 100 wrote: >>> > > I would preferred if this could also be changed by each users >>> > > individually in the settings (maybe the settings could be set >>> > > globally) >>> > >>> > Although preferences are evil, I see the point for customizing this. >>> > Having ar: in the top if I have no idea of that language is useless, I >>> > would prefer to sort first those languages I could understand, perhaps >>> > with a separator from those I definetely don't know (others might want >>> > to completely hide those). >>> > >>> > >>> > On 08/01/13 22:41, Meng Lu wrote: >>> > > It's an interesting point. I personally would prefer seeing the >>> > > Wikipedia instance's own language and English stay at the top, >>> followed >>> > > by the rest in alphabetical order. A longer stretch might be >>> > > providing alternative ordering methods for languages such as >>> > > alphabetical order, descending sizes of that page in each Wikipedia >>> > > instance. >>> > >>> > Article sizes are not a perfect estimator for article quality, but >>> seems >>> > decent enough. However, it should be able to be overriden by marks of >>> > Featured-article / Good-article when some of the entries are tagged as >>> > such. >>> > Con: Any edit potentially means purgin the entries for all interwikis. >>> > Although if the interwiki sort order is stored in wikidata, and we >>> > perhaps aren't actively purgin the squid entries, that shouldn't be a >>> > problem. >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Wikidata-l mailing list >>> > Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>> > >>>