Good work. I understand both the storyboard and the data model. Thanks! Cindy On Jun 21, 2012, at 5:00 AM, wikidata-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote: > Send Wikidata-l mailing list submissions to > wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikidata-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikidata-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikidata-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. reworked storyboard for linking Wikipedia articles > (Lydia Pintscher) > 2. Re: less hard-core version of the data model (Friedrich R?hrs) > 3. Re: Collaboration opportunity with MegaJoule.org (Lydia Pintscher) > 4. Re: reworked storyboard for linking Wikipedia articles > (Gregor Hagedorn) > 5. Re: reworked storyboard for linking Wikipedia articles > (Friedrich R?hrs) > 6. demo system updated (Lydia Pintscher) > 7. Re: reworked storyboard for linking Wikipedia articles > (Lydia Pintscher) > 8. Re: demo system updated (benedix(a)zedat.fu-berlin.de) > 9. Re: demo system updated (Lydia Pintscher) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:09:09 +0200 > From: Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de> > To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." > <wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: [Wikidata-l] reworked storyboard for linking Wikipedia > articles > Message-ID: > <CABfqUg+p_7ZaTpcuuvgkHw_Ach481hxRzd1TAm6beG5TbwWV6g(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Heya :) > > We reworked the storyboard we published a while ago for how we think > linking between Wikipedia articles should work. They can be found > here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Storyboard_for_linking_… > Please have a look and give feedback. Also spread the word to others > who are not on this list if you don't mind. > > > Cheers > Lydia > > -- > Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher > Community Communications for Wikidata > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. > Obentrautstr. 72 > 10963 Berlin > www.wikimedia.de > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur F?rderung Freien Wissens e. V. > > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg > unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinn?tzig anerkannt durch das > Finanzamt f?r K?rperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:19:40 +0200 > From: Friedrich R?hrs <f.roehrs(a)mis.uni-saarland.de> > To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." > <wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] less hard-core version of the data model > Message-ID: > <CANpAW=22BEPnTjFSmSaoW3c3JYsUtVkoqX=6UNQ5yfLfDGNVew(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hey, > > I think the data model description is really clear (at least I think I > have understood it ;) ). Maybe some points could be improved: > > Concerning the Part about statements > > I would maybe choose a top down approach to describing the individual > components. i.e.: > > A statement consists of a claim and optionally one or more references > sourcing that claim. > A claim consists of a property, a value and optionally one or more qualifiers > > (and then go on about property, value and qualifiers as well as references) > > To me such an approach seems to be more clear in reguard to the image > showed on the right, than to start with the individual components and > then go on about how they are grouped. > > There seems to be a conflict with the requirement that "Wikidata will > not be about the truth, but about statements and their references." > however, since in the model references seem to be about claims and not > statements (although being part of statements). Maybe a more concise > wording could be choosen to harmonize the vocabulary. > > Also maybe some visualization of the components can help understanding > (example attached.) > > Another thing: the "example statements" seem to actually be (pseudo) > items with statements (?), but while the label is there the > description is missing. Since the text above says every item must have > a label and a description this is a bit confusing. Maybe a simple > description can be added to the pseudo items. > > > Friedrich > > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Denny Vrande?i? > <denny.vrandecic(a)wikimedia.de> wrote: >> Aw gosh, I really thought it is written with an "s". I guess I forgot >> the spelling, since Elizabeth II wasn't mentioned in the news for a >> while and so I wasn't reminded about how to write that name... >> >> Thanks for reading, >> Cheers, >> Denny >> >> 2012/6/20 Barry Norton <barry.norton(a)ontotext.com>om>: >>> >>> Was the Elisabeth redirect some deliberate statement about >>> internationalisation ;) >>> >>> (Sorry internationalization!) >>> >>> Barry >>> >>> >>> >>> On 20/06/2012 11:39, Lydia Pintscher wrote: >>> >>> Heya folks :) >>> >>> We've published a version of the data model that is less technical and >>> that should be easier to understand than the very detailed existing >>> one. You can find it at >>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Data_model_primer >>> Feedback welcome! >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> Lydia >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>> Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Project director Wikidata >> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin >> Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de >> >> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur F?rderung Freien Wissens e.V. >> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg >> unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinn?tzig anerkannt durch das >> Finanzamt f?r K?rperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >