Hi Jan, Léa, Markus and Wikidatans,
Thanks for your email, Jan. I'd really like to learn how to add short or
very long lists to a) Wikipedia and b) Wikidata and c) together, and in
multiple, comparable languages - and help create a help page for this, as
well as focus Wikipedia / Wikidata video tutorials for this. I'd also like
to learn how to add sub lists of these.
While
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation
_input/Scenario_C_splitting might go a little bit in the right direction,
I'm mainly interested in how I and a help page could clarify adding new
lists at this point to Wikipedia and Wikidata.
In terms of SHORT LISTS, and as examples for me, referring to your
questions, I'd like to learn how to add to Wikidata or Wikipedia short
lists such as CC MIT OCW in Chinese -
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/tra
nslated-courses/traditional-chinese/ (with 120 courses) - and in Spanish -
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/translated-courses/spanish/ (with 94 courses)
(and in its other 6 languages -
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/tra
nslated-courses/) <http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/translated-courses/)-> . See
too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCourseWare.
I'm also interested in learnin to add an already existing list in Wikipedia
to Wikidata eg CC Yale OYC (
http://oyc.yale.edu/) (with 42 courses, as well
as the links within each course, as possible sublists) to Yale OYC in
Wikidata -
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1091983 since there's already a
list of Yale OYC in Wikipedia -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Open_Yale_Courses).
In terms of LONG LISTS, and more complex wiki list-adding (by wiki I mean
by any end users from help pages, with help from Wikidatans) - thank you,
Jan - here are three examples -
a)
Adding Wikitionary lists to Glottolog list in Wikipedia -
If I had successfully added a list of all 7,943 languages from CC Glottolog
to CC Wikipedia, I would then like to be able to add lists of CC Wiktionary
entries to each of these 8k languages (and perhaps in conjunction with
MediaWiki Content Translation -
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki
/Content_translation - for new kinds of Wikipedia / WMF / Wikidata
translation). Re these two lists together, I'd like too to be able to add
furthermore lists of a) whole written words, b) parts/syllables of written
words, c) spoken whole words d) phonemes - spoken parts or units of words
to each of the 358 Wikipedia languages (of the 7,943 languages). And how
would this work on a help page on the Wikidata side?
b)
Adding cellular level lists (re potentially long lists)
I'd like to be able to add lists of species - and especially those that are
ambiguous such as unicellular organisms and not in Wikipedia (which could
be very long lists), e.g.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicellular_organism
(and re
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_problem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species
https://www.worldwildlife.org/species/directory?direction=de
sc&sort=extinction_status as database-interelated examples)
c)
Adding nano (very very small or atomic level - and potentially ginormous
lists, too) level
How best to plan for how-to-wiki-add lists at the nano level - and add this
information to a help page (for WUaS/Wikidata brain research, example)?
(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanomaterials
http://listverse.com/2015/05/11/10-man-made-nanomaterials-wi
th-futuristic-powers/
http://listverse.com/2015/05/11/10-man-made-nanomaterials-wi
th-futuristic-powers/
http://bionanotech.uniss.it/?p=760)
d)
Does
cellular (neuronal) and nano (atomic?)
refer to something like the possibility to create lists of lists?
In part, yes - in that lists of lists would be "largest lists" of an item.
Here are the three help pages that we've shared so far -
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input and
https://en.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:List and
https://www.wikidata.org/
wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input/Scenario_C_splitting - but none of them
seems to help me add a list to Wikipedia easily. (Am I reading these
correctly?)
Could we also add to such a possible new "Wikipedia-Wikidata List
Generation" help page per your suggestion (and my previous email in this
thread), something along the lines of "3 tutorial videos about Wikidata: an
intro to Wikidata, how to edit Wikidata and Wikidata Sparql Query Tutorial
by Ewan McAndrew, Navino Evans and Sean McBirnie" which were just shared in
this weeks Wikidata new. I haven't watched these in full yet - Ewan ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=27&v=GFh9gVUgbuA and and ) - so
if I'm missing something about Wikipedia list-adding and Wikidata
list-adding per my email above please let me know. Thank you, Ewan, Navino
and Sean! Wikidata conferences from the past may be great source material
for some of these questions.
In terms of making wiki-list-adding very easy with voice, and possibly to
add "how in voice" to a developing Wikidata help page for
"Wikipedia-Wikidata List Generation" (if there are / could be a few voice
steps, for example), I tried again asking my Android voice system, for
example, on my cell phone to "Please add to Wikidata a list of Creative
Commons' licensed Yale Open Yale Courses " -
https://www.wikidata.org/wik
i/Q1091983 and at the top of the list was another Wikidata help page -
https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:About_data - but no list was added yet :).
(A few months ago I mentioned what I was able to achieve in voice in adding
lists to Wikipedia / Wikidata as well).
Markus and Léa, how please would I begin please to add lists of a)
Wikipedia/Wikidata languages with WUaS's SUBJECT TEMPLATE and b) add lists
of MIT OCW in 7 languages and Yale OYC to Wikidata with a WUaS Course
Catalog and c) a list of matriculated students/open learners/teachers with
the above? WUaS would like to start reaching out for student applicants to
accrediting WUaS this autumn.
Thank you.
Kind Regards,
Scott
Here are my recent emails in this thread -
http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2016/09/liliaceae-wikidata-list-generatio…
On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Jan Dittrich <jan.dittrich(a)wikimedia.de>
wrote:
> Hello Scott,
> Thanks for your input! If I understand this right, your concern is that
> there might be lists like "list of species" which are impossible (with
> several million entries) to have as single list?
>
> There is the splitting lists scenario,
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/
> Wikidata:List_generation_input/Scenario_C_splitting
> Does this go in the right direction for you (even though with far fewer
> items)?
>
> Does
>
>
cellular (neuronal) and nano (atomic?)
>
> refer to something like the possibility to create lists of lists?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Jan
>
>
>
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>> Hi Léa, Jan, Gerard, Markus, Wikidatans and All,
>>
>> I've read at different times that there are anywhere from 3 to 100 million
>> species (the latter would be a long list indeed!) and when you get
>> probably
>> to different lists at the cellular (neuronal) and nano (atomic?) levels,
>> for example, the lists will probably get "way" longer :)
>>
>> Thank you, Scott
>>
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