When the audience was asked for their preferences, I raised my hand and happily declared "Contributing to the Software and FLOSS projects !". Much to my surprise this was quickly dismissed: "we're only going to learn about tools, we create groups to use and learn about tools, not to work on a specific project". My interest for the Software project is known to both Harmonia Amanda and Ash_Crow, to the extent that I discussed with them my intent to recruit people to participate in the workshop for that particular topic[3], well in advance. The focus of our interest was also made clear in the participant list[4]. [3] 15 july 2016 <dachary> Ash_Crow: pour https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik i/WikiConvention_francophone/2016/Programme/Atelier_de_ formation_%C3%A0_Wikidata nous serons au moins trois avec pour centre d'intérêt https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Informati cs/FLOSS et https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Informati cs/Software . J'espère convaincre deux autres personnes mais c'est pas gagné ... l'attrait des vacances... [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/ 2016/Programme/Atelier_de_formation_%C3%A0_Wikidata# Participants_int.C3.A9ress.C3.A9s_.28inscrivez-vous_ci- dessous_et_posez_d.C3.A8s_.C3.A0_pr.C3.A9sent_vos_questions_ .C3.A0_l.27organisateur_de_la_session.29

2016-08-21 19:06 GMT+02:00 Loic Dachary &lt;loic(a)dachary.org <mailto:loic@dachary.org> <mailto:loic@dachary.org <mailto:loic@dachary.org>>>: When the audience was asked for their preferences, I raised my hand and happily declared "Contributing to the Software and FLOSS projects !". Much to my surprise this was quickly dismissed: "we're only going to learn about tools, we create groups to use and learn about tools, not to work on a specific project". My interest for the Software project is known to both Harmonia Amanda and Ash_Crow, to the extent that I discussed with them my intent to recruit people to participate in the workshop for that particular topic[3], well in advance. And I answered you weeks ago that I plan to organize a fully dedicated workshop on this topic later this year, involving local free software organizations like Parinux or Framasoft.

Hi Jane, On 26/08/2016 14:01, Jane Darnell wrote: underrepresented on Wikidata and there is very little interlinking going on at all, while many items are missing P31. I do think it would be useful to create a Wikidata:<Software project> page to list the various types of software (OS, languages, development environments) and model how to use properties to flesh out such items. I suspect there are several properties that need to be created, such as "Principal developer" or something like that. You're right ! That's what https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/ Wikidata:WikiProject_Informatics/FLOSS and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/ Wikidata:WikiProject_Informatics/Software are about, but it's quite recent. important thing is to share basic gadgets and knowledge, because there is so much still to be done on outreach in all languages. I noticed for example that Listeria was blocked on Portuguese Wikipedia due to objections in the labelling showing up in list headers. This shows how the basic interface is still such a mystery to so many communities, probably because the basic interface is still so incomplete in those languages. That makes perfect sense. My bug report was not about the scope of the workshop. It was more about the contradiction between the workshop description and what happened, the way communication was handled overall and the fact that it lead to a situation that is counterproductive and generally unpleasant for the people involved. It's easy to fix and I'm sure things will be better next time :-) Cheers <mailto:loic@dachary.org>> wrote: <mailto:loic@dachary.org> <mailto:loic@dachary.org <mailto: loic(a)dachary.org&gt;&gt;&gt;;>>: my hand and happily declared "Contributing to the Software and FLOSS projects !". Much to my surprise this was quickly dismissed: "we're only going to learn about tools, we create groups to use and learn about tools, not to work on a specific project". My interest for the Software project is known to both Harmonia Amanda and Ash_Crow, to the extent that I discussed with them my intent to recruit people to participate in the workshop for that particular topic[3], well in advance. dedicated workshop on this topic later this year, involving local free software organizations like Parinux or Framasoft. explains what happened during the wikiconvention though. this topic, involving you and Harmonia Amanda (which I will not quote here because I assume this is not a good behavior to quote from channels that are not logged). The general tone was unfriendly and made me feel unwanted as a contributor. It also made me realize that my efforts to bring more French people / organizations to wikidata were mocked and unappreciated. contributions. For this reason I will distance myself from the wikidata French community. I hope to return in the future when a more welcoming context has been established. https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata> -- Loïc Dachary, Artisan Logiciel Libre _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata