So I'm not a lawyer but I don't think there are trademark issues with "Toolhub" as a name. Assuming that's the case, I think it would be better if we used the name consistently, with "toolhub:" as the interwiki prefix. ("th:" is used by Thai.)


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On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 2:43 PM, Philippe Verdy <verdy_p@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
Also the interwiki is very friendly for linking tools from with pages  as
  You can look for the map of events [[with:Maptool/events|with Maptool]].
or just (in English pages)
  You can look for the map [[with:Maptool/events]].


2018-03-21 22:38 GMT+01:00 Philippe Verdy <verdy_p@wanadoo.fr>:
Note: the subdomain can as well be "with.wikimedia.org", so "WikiMedia Tools Hub" just appears in the expanded name and can be translated more freely, with or without the plural).
"WiTH" suggests very well the cooperation and in case of problems with "GitHub" naming, we can just keep "WiTH", and writing "Tools Hub" with the space will be less like "GitHub" and will avoid possibly trademark issues.

2018-03-21 22:34 GMT+01:00 Philippe Verdy <verdy_p@wanadoo.fr>:
Suppress the plural, ToolHub is OK as well, just like the abbreviation "WiTH" and the interwiki "with:"

2018-03-21 22:17 GMT+01:00 James Hare <jhare@wikimedia.org>:
I actually hadn't thought of that – I think "Toolhub" would be a great idea. It's brief and translates well to a wikimedia.org subdomain name. (My main issue with "ToolsHub" with the plural is that unless you use the camelcase, it's very easy to read "tools hub" as "tool shub".) 

What do others think? Does Toolhub work for people? Are there other ideas?



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Wikimedia Foundation

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Philippe Verdy <verdy_p@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
"Tool" seems OK for me, but associating it with "Market" or "Exchange" is probably less community-related, too much business-related, and "Catalog" is effectively too passive.

Why not just "ToolsHub" ? (which implies some meeting point, cooperation, communication, and does not prohibit exchanges). May be it looks for you too much like "GitHub" which shares a similar principle.
Or "WiToolsHub" (WITH... not "WMTH" which is more likely "Wikimedia Thailand") if you want to abbreviate what would be the "ToolsHub.Wikimedia.org" domain ?

We could then have a cute new interwiki prefix "with:" !


2018-03-21 20:26 GMT+01:00 James Hare <jhare@wikimedia.org>:
Hello everyone,

It was recommended that I consult with this mailing list on a decision I need to make.

I am currently working on a catalog of tools Wikimedians use in their work. "Tools" in this case includes web tools hosted on places such as Toolforge, as well as bots and JavaScript gadgets. This catalog will build on the work of Hay's tool directory: <https://tools.wmflabs.org/hay/directory/>.

As part of this work I have to pick what the final name of the catalog product will be, which will include a web interface as well as an API. "Tool Catalog" is technically an option, but I want a name that reflects what this service intends to be, which is a living, community-maintained documentation project. (To me, "catalog" feels too passive.) At the same time, I want to pick a name that can be localized without difficulty.

My first question is: do you think "tool" is something that translates well? In English it's a very vague word, but over the past 13 or so years it's become a term of art in the Wikimedia movement to refer to external software tools that help you do on-wiki things. I personally think there is a better word out there but I don't know what would be as readily recognizable to the community as "tools" (at least to English speakers). The short of it is that if you'd like to see people move away from using "tools" as a term with this meaning, now's a good time to speak up.

My second question has to do with the next word in the name: what is this thing we are building actually called? Assuming "tool" is okay to use, I personally am partial toward the names "Tool Market" or "Tool Exchange," but it would be great to hear other ideas.

What do you think? What name do you think would work the best in the most languages?


Thank you,


James Hare
Associate Product Manager
Wikimedia Foundation

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