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hi,
on Monday, 6 April between 5-7AM UTC, scheduled quarterly maintenance will take
place on the following servers:
zedler (s2), rosemary (s1), yarrow (s3), hemlock, amaranth, willow (stable)
expected downtime for each server is less than 15 minutes.
- river.
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I asked because a 14-year-old pupil and can't pay for the service but I want
to use more than 25 DB-queries, phpMyAdmin and cron. Is there a alternative?
Deutsch:
Hallo,
Ich hatte gefregt, weil ich ein 14 Jahre alter Schüler bin und ich nicht für
die "extra Services" des Toolserver zahlen kann. Trotzdem möchte ich mehr
als 25 DB-queries, phpMyAdmin und cron nutzen. Gibt es da eine Möglichkeit?
Gruß
Jan
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[mailto:toolserver-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Jan Luca
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. April 2009 16:01
An: toolserver-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Betreff: Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver paid accounts
What is with the persons who use paid jobs and can't pay for them?
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[mailto:toolserver-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von River
Tarnell
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. April 2009 03:25
An: toolserver-announce(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Cc: toolserver-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Betreff: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver paid accounts
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hi,
as you are no doubt aware, the Toolserver is perennially short of money, and
often cannot afford to buy hardware/software which would greatly improve the
reliability of the service. after much internal discussion, we have decided
upon a solution to this problem, which we will be trialling shortly: paid
accounts.
this works as follows: basic Toolserver accounts remain free. however, the
functionality of these accounts will be limited; free users cannot use more
than 64MB RAM, or 256MB of disk space, and cannot use more than 1 CPU-hour
of
CPU time per day. (this means CPU use is limited to, for example, 1 process
using 100% of a single CPU for 1 hour, per day.) we will allow disallow
some
additional features for free accounts: cron; screen; email forwarding;
phpMyAdmin and Subversion hosting. web hosting will still be available.
because one of the main uses of the Toolserver is the replicated Wikimedia
databases, we will be allowing this even to free users. however, each
account
will be limited to 25 queries per day. this should be fine for occasional
queries.
for users who need more than these basic resources, it will be possible to
purchase additional resources. instead of having a single "paid account"
price, we decided to allow the purchase of individual resources. this means
you can pay for only what you need. the initial pricing structure (which is
subject to change) is:
* phpMyAdmin: EUR1/month
* cron: EUR5/month
* screen: EUR5/month
* unlimited SQL queries on *one* cluster: EUR2.50/month
* 'upgrade package' (includes phpMyAdmin, cron, screen and unlimited queries
for all clusters): EUR15/month
* additional 64MB of RAM: EUR5/month
* additional 256MB of disk space: EUR5/month
* one Subversion repository: EUR2.50/month
* 'upgrade plus' package (includes upgrade package, plus the above):
EUR25/month
other features:
* premium support: EUR5/month (gives priority to your ts-admins@ requests),
as
well as telephone support (subject to fair usage limits)
* one stable server project: EUR5/month
* dedicated virtual machine (Solaris zone), including root access:
EUR10/month.
for users who need to buy more upgrades, for example a large amount of disk
space, bulk purchase discounts will be available; please contact ts-admins@
for
details on this.
we will wait a few weeks before implementing this change, to give users a
chance to decide what resources they need. you can purchase your paid
account
in advance, and it won't take effect until we make the change. please mail
ts-admins@ for instructions on how to pay.
we hope this change will improve the Toolserver experience for all users,
and
provide the much-needed funding we need to continue growing. if you have
any
comments or suggestions about this proposal, please discuss them on the
list.
thanks for understanding,
- river.
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hi,
as you are no doubt aware, the Toolserver is perennially short of money, and
often cannot afford to buy hardware/software which would greatly improve the
reliability of the service. after much internal discussion, we have decided
upon a solution to this problem, which we will be trialling shortly: paid
accounts.
this works as follows: basic Toolserver accounts remain free. however, the
functionality of these accounts will be limited; free users cannot use more
than 64MB RAM, or 256MB of disk space, and cannot use more than 1 CPU-hour of
CPU time per day. (this means CPU use is limited to, for example, 1 process
using 100% of a single CPU for 1 hour, per day.) we will allow disallow some
additional features for free accounts: cron; screen; email forwarding;
phpMyAdmin and Subversion hosting. web hosting will still be available.
because one of the main uses of the Toolserver is the replicated Wikimedia
databases, we will be allowing this even to free users. however, each account
will be limited to 25 queries per day. this should be fine for occasional
queries.
for users who need more than these basic resources, it will be possible to
purchase additional resources. instead of having a single "paid account"
price, we decided to allow the purchase of individual resources. this means
you can pay for only what you need. the initial pricing structure (which is
subject to change) is:
* phpMyAdmin: EUR1/month
* cron: EUR5/month
* screen: EUR5/month
* unlimited SQL queries on *one* cluster: EUR2.50/month
* 'upgrade package' (includes phpMyAdmin, cron, screen and unlimited queries
for all clusters): EUR15/month
* additional 64MB of RAM: EUR5/month
* additional 256MB of disk space: EUR5/month
* one Subversion repository: EUR2.50/month
* 'upgrade plus' package (includes upgrade package, plus the above): EUR25/month
other features:
* premium support: EUR5/month (gives priority to your ts-admins@ requests), as
well as telephone support (subject to fair usage limits)
* one stable server project: EUR5/month
* dedicated virtual machine (Solaris zone), including root access: EUR10/month.
for users who need to buy more upgrades, for example a large amount of disk
space, bulk purchase discounts will be available; please contact ts-admins@ for
details on this.
we will wait a few weeks before implementing this change, to give users a
chance to decide what resources they need. you can purchase your paid account
in advance, and it won't take effect until we make the change. please mail
ts-admins@ for instructions on how to pay.
we hope this change will improve the Toolserver experience for all users, and
provide the much-needed funding we need to continue growing. if you have any
comments or suggestions about this proposal, please discuss them on the list.
thanks for understanding,
- river.
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River? Do you take Paypal? That root access package sounds like a bargain!
But with all the spoofs out there, it's hard to tell who is who. So I really
know it's you, please send EUR 1 to my paypal account (email, below...) it
will be refunded in my return payment, of course.
However... I agree with Bryan, why no progress on the Counterstrike server?
Larry Pieniazek
Hobby mail: Lar at Miltontrainworks dot com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:24:51 +0100
> From: River Tarnell <river(a)loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk>
> Subject: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver paid accounts
> To: toolserver-announce(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Cc: toolserver-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Message-ID: <20090401012451.GY4696(a)loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk>
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> hi,
>
> as you are no doubt aware, the Toolserver is perennially
> short of money, and often cannot afford to buy
> hardware/software which would greatly improve the reliability
> of the service. after much internal discussion, we have
> decided upon a solution to this problem, which we will be
> trialling shortly: paid accounts.
>
> this works as follows: basic Toolserver accounts remain
> free. however, the functionality of these accounts will be
> limited; free users cannot use more than 64MB RAM, or 256MB
> of disk space, and cannot use more than 1 CPU-hour of CPU
> time per day. (this means CPU use is limited to, for
> example, 1 process using 100% of a single CPU for 1 hour, per
> day.) we will allow disallow some additional features for
> free accounts: cron; screen; email forwarding; phpMyAdmin and
> Subversion hosting. web hosting will still be available.
>
> because one of the main uses of the Toolserver is the
> replicated Wikimedia databases, we will be allowing this even
> to free users. however, each account will be limited to 25
> queries per day. this should be fine for occasional queries.
>
> for users who need more than these basic resources, it will
> be possible to purchase additional resources. instead of
> having a single "paid account"
> price, we decided to allow the purchase of individual
> resources. this means you can pay for only what you need.
> the initial pricing structure (which is subject to change) is:
>
> * phpMyAdmin: EUR1/month
> * cron: EUR5/month
> * screen: EUR5/month
> * unlimited SQL queries on *one* cluster: EUR2.50/month
> * 'upgrade package' (includes phpMyAdmin, cron, screen and
> unlimited queries
> for all clusters): EUR15/month
>
> * additional 64MB of RAM: EUR5/month
> * additional 256MB of disk space: EUR5/month
> * one Subversion repository: EUR2.50/month
> * 'upgrade plus' package (includes upgrade package, plus the
> above): EUR25/month
>
> other features:
> * premium support: EUR5/month (gives priority to your
> ts-admins@ requests), as
> well as telephone support (subject to fair usage limits)
> * one stable server project: EUR5/month
> * dedicated virtual machine (Solaris zone), including root
> access: EUR10/month.
>
> for users who need to buy more upgrades, for example a large
> amount of disk space, bulk purchase discounts will be
> available; please contact ts-admins@ for details on this.
>
> we will wait a few weeks before implementing this change, to
> give users a chance to decide what resources they need. you
> can purchase your paid account in advance, and it won't take
> effect until we make the change. please mail ts-admins@ for
> instructions on how to pay.
>
> we hope this change will improve the Toolserver experience
> for all users, and provide the much-needed funding we need to
> continue growing. if you have any comments or suggestions
> about this proposal, please discuss them on the list.
>
> thanks for understanding,
> - river.
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