In these cases the big advantage is the capacity to be cloned. A governement can block an ip or a domain but it would be hard to block internet.

The good approach is to invite the web to host kiwix and zim files for downloading. That would be easier than cloning Wikipedia content. 

However that approach will save readers but not writers.

Kind regards

Il 07 Mag 2017 23:36, "Gabriel Thullen" <gabriel@thullen.com> ha scritto:
I agree with James that we need to encourage initiatives like Kiwix
Wikipedia Zero. We need to be able to distribute Kiwix in countries that
have blocked Wikipedia, because it is no big deal for a government to block
the Kiwix.org site as well, and phone operators providing Wikipedia Zero
will have to obey government injunctions. Chances are that a block on
kiwix.org will hardly be noticed by our community. Looks like the good old
sneakernet with USB flash drives is still a viable option...

Gabe

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak <darekj@alk.edu.pl>
wrote:

> Yup. It would be interesting to ponder if wiki app could channel through
> Tor by default - in the spirit of The Guardian project. Informing users
> about Tor benefits has obvious disavantages related to the fact that most
> people will not be able to grasp it.
>
> Dariusz Jemielniak
>
> On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 9:26 PM, James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The issues occurring in Turkey highlight that we may also need to keep in
> > mind:
> >
> > * Access
> >
> > over the next 15 years. Where access is not only potentially hindered by
> > governments but also technical and monetary realities in various country
> > and region. We of course have already worked and continue to do work in
> > this area with initiatives like Wikipedia Zero and Offline Wikipedia /
> > Kiwix.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Katherine Maher <kmaher@wikimedia.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > *Summary: The report from cycle 1 discussion is online[1]. The start of
> > > cycle 2 is delayed until next week.*
> > >
> > > Thank you for your contributions! We have been hard at work reading,
> > > sorting, and summarizing more than 1,800 community member statements,
> > from
> > > more than 100 community discussions from across five continents. Each
> of
> > > these statements was a response to the question: "What do we want to
> > build
> > > or achieve together over the next 15 years?"
> > >
> > > You can find the full report on the major themes, and more details
> about
> > > them, in a summarized report on Meta-Wiki.[1]
> > >
> > > Some common themes emerged from these conversations:
> > >
> > > * Reliable, neutral, high-quality content
> > > * Community health & support
> > > * Internal & external collaboration
> > > * Improved and new features
> > > * Users, editors, & contributors
> > > * Outreach, awareness, & promotion
> > > * Innovation and adaptation
> > > * Funding, staffing, and other organizational needs
> > > * Support for emerging communities
> > > * Advancing Wikipedia in education
> > > * Movement values
> > > * Sustainability & growth
> > >
> > > Each of these themes is described in more detail within the body of the
> > > report,[1] and the full data spreadsheet from this analysis will be
> > posted
> > > soon.
> > >
> > > The movement strategy team has been working to group these themes
> > together,
> > > so that we have a smaller number of concepts to consider in the next
> > cycle.
> > > Because this work is important, we want to make sure the grouping and
> > > analysis are comprehensive and thoughtful. In order to make sure we can
> > get
> > > it right, we’re delaying the start of cycle 2 discussions until next
> > week.
> > >
> > > As you probably know, the Turkish authorities blocked Wikipedia in
> Turkey
> > > this week.[2] We’ve been working around the clock to understand the
> > > circumstances and respond appropriately, including appealing in Turkish
> > > court. We’re grateful to everyone who has reached out to offer us your
> > > thoughts and perspective. Government limitations on free knowledge are
> > just
> > > one of the critical issues that have come up during the movement
> strategy
> > > process. As we confront these challenges in real time, it has been a
> > > reminder for me how important our work is, and how it has very real
> > > implications for people around the globe. Again, thank you.
> > >
> > > Kendine iyi bak (Turkish translation: “Take care of yourself”),
> > >
> > > Katherine
> > >
> > > PS. A version of this message is available for translation on
> > Meta-Wiki.[3]
> > >
> > > [1]
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_
> > > movement/2017/Cycle_1/Report
> > > [2]
> > > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/04/30/turkish-
> > authorities-block-wikipedia/
> > > [3]
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_
> > > movement/2017/Updates/5_May_2017_-_Update_15_on_Wikimedia_
> > > movement_strategy_process
> > >
> > > --
> > > Katherine Maher
> > >
> > > Wikimedia Foundation
> > > 149 New Montgomery Street
> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > >
> > > +1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6635
> > > +1 (415) 712 4873
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> __________________________
> prof. dr hab. Dariusz Jemielniak
> kierownik katedry Zarządzania Międzynarodowego
> i grupy badawczej NeRDS
> Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego
> http://nerds.kozminski.edu.pl
>
> członek Akademii Młodych Uczonych Polskiej Akademii Nauk
>
> Wyszła pierwsza na świecie etnografia Wikipedii "Common Knowledge? An
> Ethnography of Wikipedia" (2014, Stanford University Press) mojego
> autorstwa http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=24010
>
> Recenzje
> Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
> Pacific Standard:
> http://www.psmag.com/navigation/books-and-culture/killed-wikipedia-93777/
> Motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia
> The Wikipedian:
> http://thewikipedian.net/2014/10/10/dariusz-jemielniak-common-knowledge
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