Dear all,
Can we organize an IRC chat sometime soon? I'm free this weekend and the
start of next week.
It would be good to firm up general guidelines on how long discussions run,
how they are translated, and how closed -- drawing from the last two times
this happened and the current travel discussion. I'd like to get Board
approval for the charter at our next IRC meeting; there was no time to
discuss it at the Wikimania meeting.
And we should discuss how to wrap up and publish feedback on the current
open proposals.
Warmly,
SJ
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the review.
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Thehelpfulone
<thehelpfulonewiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Wikitravel already seems to have some guidelines
for this,
http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:Be_fair as an example.
Yes, this seems like a decent starting point.
Wikitravel again has a policy for this,
http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:Don%27t_tout, but we could consider
putting some Abuse Filters or similar in place to help alleviate issues
with
this.
I agree -- and this is a problem that has been getting worse recently
on all of our wikis. I don't know how to deal with it beyond a
stronger emphasis on good anti-spam extensions, and helping people in
those areas work better together.
I am happy to endorse the
proposal. I also note that if this proposal is approved by the Board, I
am
happy to volunteer with any of the administrative
work including setting
up
the wiki, adding interwiki links in various
places, reading over policies
etc as I'm sure many of the other members of our community will be.
That's good to hear. A number of other commentors like Guaka who have
set up their own travel-related sites have said the same. Which is a
good sign beyond general willingness to edit.
On sending out a message to get wider feedback:
Yes, that
would be a good precedent to set. It can be a very
easy-to-translate message. We should try to get the intro paragraph
of the proposal translated into major langs as well. Maybe we can wait
a few days for initial translations and allow other translations to be
sent out as they are done?
I know we're running a bit behind for this, but did you still want to
get a
message up and sent? It would be cutting it quite
close but it might be
an
idea to see if there is any opposition from
anyone, although I take into
account that Village Pumps and/or Community Portals might not be as
effective as we would like them to be for this purpose.
Yes, we should do it. I think this should be a requirement before
projects go live.
As long as this process is underway by Wikimania, it will alert
attendees that this is happening -- there is already a meeting planned
of current supporters, but this could make even better use of that
time if any hard questions are raised in the next week. The Board can
then weigh the input so far, and make a decision such as "if this
gains community approval in a site-noticed RfC, we support making it a
new sister project".
SJ
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