Last I heard, the WMF is most likely going to proceed with switching
to GitLab for CI, but that the code review interface is back to
"undecided" pending further discussion. I'd encourage anyone with
information about necessary features, current workflows, past
challenges, potential sticking points, etc. to bring that up on
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Release_Engineering_Team/GitLab>.
The more we say about what we need now, the more we're likely to get
that.
There's been some discussion about how the mailing
list/Gerrit/Differential-style patch request system differs from the
GitHub/GitLab branch merge request system at
<https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:Vpbonspnaaafjdwq&topic_showPostId=vpnoqsbxxa881qu0#flow-post-vpnoqsbxxa881qu0>
and <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Vpbwawb4lkdy89ym>.
AC
On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 3:57 PM <info(a)gno.de> wrote:
Yes other things are important too. How can the review process be implemented. I made
some PR at github an it is painfull: checkout the repository to a local working copy,
create a new branch for the changes, fork the repository at github, submit the changes to
the fork, create a pull request, wait and see. If the base has changed, deleting the fork
and recreating it for a new patch is easier then try to forward the fork base to the
repository one. In summary I fear some kind of deja-vu. Anyway we need technical support
for a lot of things, documentation for volunteer and a lot of how-tos about review task
must be cleared first.
Best xqt
Am 29.07.2020 um 15:47 schrieb Huji Lee <huji.huji(a)gmail.com>om>:
The transition from svn to git was hard; that is partly because git and svn have totally
different philosophies, and partly because the people who lead those transitions are
programmers by trade and the way they documented it was not the right/sufficient way of
documentation for habitual volunteer contributors (like me).
The transition from gerrit to github can/should be simpler because we are staying within
the git world. But your point, xqt, about documentation is important. One approach is to
*demand* from WMF to provide support for transitioning CI and other things.
On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 12:47 AM <info(a)gno.de> wrote:
Isn’t this decided already as I have read Wikitech-l Digest, Vol 204, Issue 7? No glue
what this means for us and our infrastructure. Surely we would have a lot of work to
follow this change or get another solution running. (Haven’t we a discussion about it 4
years ago?) And only a few active people for our project.
I remember the change from svn to gerrit was very hard and I was nearby giving up. And
we lost other people like Binaris. The main problem for me was git/gerrit until I found a
proper way to get it running (and wrote a manual for it). Thanks to Merlijn who gave me
the crucial hint there.
For the new place I fear the main problems would be the CI setup and I think we would
need support for it.
Best
xqt
Am 09.07.2020 um 23:14 schrieb Huji Lee <huji.huji(a)gmail.com>om>:
I think that is a great idea. If Xqt could do that, it would be awesome.
On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 4:20 PM Kunal Mehta <legoktm(a)member.fsf.org> wrote:
On 2020-07-04 04:27, Maarten Dammers wrote:
Of interest to us too. Someone in some WMF
backroom has decided that
we're switching from Gerrit to Gitlab. I'm no big fan of Gerrit, but
this seems to be a very strange process. Comments on
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Release_Engineering_Team/GitL…
As an update, it seems like we're going backwards (a good thing) and
going to have some consultation process/working group.
At [1] I've suggested that someone from the Pywikibot community be
included given how long it took us to do the SVN -> Git migration and
how we haven't really had our needs met using Wikimedia CI (someone
who's more active should correct me if I'm wrong/out of date on that).
[1]
https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:Vpbt50rwxgb2r6qn&topi…
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