On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 2:28 AM, John Mark Vandenberg <jayvdb@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:35 AM, Nathan <nawrich@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think that would be great. But how do we make it work in a world where
> most network infrastructure is owned by corporate entities? We have to work
> within the paradigm that exists, and we must consider the knock-on effects
> of our actions (such as promoting zero-rated content, or effectively a free
> "slow lane" on the net) within this paradigm. But...
>
> Our mission is to provide a public service (a source for knowledge) to as
> many people as possible; the Wikimedia movement is not dedicated to open
> source content,

err .. what?

The mission of the WMF is almost solely dedicated to open source content!
Or, as written "educational content under a free license or in the
public domain".
Which links to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_content

I should have written open source software, true. But again, I think these are great goals that are secondary for us, and we use them as tools in achieving the primary goal. My point is that Wikimedia is not an advocacy organization on behalf of net neutrality or many of these other worthy goals, and we don't need to be out on the frontlines here or zealous in our adherence to principles secondary to our actual mission.

That doesn't mean we should actively harm efforts that we generally agree with, but I haven't seen much evidence that WP0 is actually being used to undercut net neutrality. If that's happening, and the concern isn't purely theoretical, I'd like to read about it and would appreciate any links.